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Post by longjohn on Aug 15, 2017 16:53:01 GMT
@monetus I have done pretty well out of Finsbury Growth and Income IT. It's run by Nick Train as primarily a growth fund. He's well respected with his Lindsell Train trusts as well.
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Post by longjohn on Aug 15, 2017 16:57:08 GMT
Also Murray International run by Bruce Stout. Strange, I can only insert one image per post. Even though each image is less than 90Kb. Both images are from www.digitallook.com/Free to join but be aware that it is http and not https so use a unique name and a throwaway email address. J
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Post by star dust on Aug 15, 2017 17:09:14 GMT
Also Murray International run by Bruce Stout. Strange, I can only insert one image per post. Even though each image is less than 90Kb. Both images are from www.digitallook.com/Free to join but be aware that it is http and not https so use a unique name and a throwaway email address. J You'll find the reason here. You could always do a second post, but we'd be really pleased if you could post them as images instead .
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Post by longjohn on Aug 15, 2017 17:20:23 GMT
Ok. I'll see what I can do. J
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Post by macq on Aug 15, 2017 18:39:30 GMT
good feature on passive funds on Trustnet today with updates on their ratings
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Post by beeje13 on Aug 19, 2017 19:25:13 GMT
Results from this month's Fund Manager survey:
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Post by yangmills on Aug 21, 2017 20:27:15 GMT
Given the constant concern that the US stock market is overvalued, I thought this table was a useful reminder from Goldman on the how the performance of equity and bond markets can differ depending on how far we are from the next downturn. To construct this table, GS use NBER recession dates to segment history into expansions and recessions and then subdivide expansions by identifying the final two years of the expansion: the one-year periods beginning exactly two years and one year before the onset of the recession. The table shows summary statistics for one-month US equity and Treasury returns by phase of the business cycle. Equity returns are S&P 500 price returns, and Treasury returns are 10-year Treasury total returns. Source: GS Research and Haver Analytics For equities, the table shows that in the one-year period falling two years prior to recession, equities, historically, had higher returns than in the expansion up to that point, and these returns have been realized with lower variance and less downside risk (as measured both by the skew statistic as well as by the 10th percentile of the return distribution). Within 12 months of recession, however, average equity returns fall from 0.92% for the prior year to just -0.05%. While better than the -0.55% average monthly returns in recession, this suggests that 12 months is the horizon over which markets begin to anticipate recession. The 12 months ahead of recession are also characterized by rising volatility and downside risk, both of which jump materially with actual onset of recession. Obviously, we don't have perfect foresight about when the end of the cycle is coming. It might imply that, unless you believe that recession occurs in the next year, then it's still hard to justify scaling out of risk.
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Post by nellerdk on Aug 22, 2017 20:15:13 GMT
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Post by nellerdk on Sept 25, 2017 21:27:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 9:10:35 GMT
I note the comments throughout this thread that passive beats active in the stock market.
It appears to be true in the US
But I suggest you need to check out the European markets to see if it is true, I spent some time reading up on this this summer, and while I did not keep any links I found that active beats passive across many of those markets, but only roughly 60:40.
I also recommend reading "What works on Wall Street" (about £15 second hand on ebay), various editions exist. While it is a particularly turgid read and could do with an Editor to take its 402 pages to the requisite 25 or so it explains pretty well why passive investing works so well especially in the American market. Unfortunatly its focus means that no explanation for the Europe situation is forthcoming.
This is an interesting thread and thanks to all for their contributions. My own interest in funds focuses on 1) low volatility and 2) high growth rates and 3) consistency of growth rates over 5 years (yes for every year) and 6) a life time of at least 10 years. Generally there are not many funds that achieve my targets, only about 5 or 6 to which I add Fundsmith as I've studied Terry's career for 30 years. These investments bring me in >11% capital growth every year, year on year since 2007. Trustnet is a better tool for this sort of research than Morningstar who struggle with related funds.
I also buy individual shares looking for consistantly successful shares (min 5 years) of sales and dividend growth which are undervalued, either due to a change a of fashion or due to a change of strategy. I review their recent reports and decide "do i believe this company is undervalued". If yes I add it to a pot (a very small pot). I then wait until the next announcement and buy in the week before. I then tightly control the asset using manual and automatic stops. For this work I see a capital growth of only >11% plus dividends. I find stock picking and stock purchase timing extremely difficult, in fact I think good timing is impossible, however I'm not timing for success I'm timing to avoid failure which means I sleep at night. ;-)
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Post by nellerdk on Sept 26, 2017 20:15:23 GMT
bobo, which individual shares do you own?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 8:19:25 GMT
Today, ignoring other strategy shares (I have three strategies) I hold DTG, BOOT, RWA, SRE, XLM. But they turn over and are replaced.
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Post by macq on Sept 27, 2017 12:18:00 GMT
there is a piece today on Trustnet about which region is most popular with trackers and also a feature on myths about ETFs. Have a few trackers in my pension but still prefer ITs overall and many are low cost themselves (which seems to be the driving force for some people)
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Post by nellerdk on Sept 30, 2017 10:57:15 GMT
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Post by yangmills on Oct 4, 2017 8:04:24 GMT
Excerpt from Marko Kolanovic (JPMorgan's Global Head, Macro, Derivative and Quantitative Strategies) October Market Commentary. This had a little piece on what the next crisis might look like. I known him for over 15 years and he's a smart guy. He has permabear tendencies but I have that weakness aswell so I don't hold it against it him. Permabulls should look away ...
I can vouch fro the idea that liquidity will be the problem. I see it everyday. Passive and momentum positioning has never been bigger, volatility never lower. The willingness/ability (due to regulation) of the sell side (banks) to take risk never lower etc.
What Will the Next Crisis Look Like:
Next year marks the 10th anniversary of the Great Financial Crisis (GFC) of 2008 and also the 50th anniversary of the 1968 global protests against political elites. Currently, there are financial and social parallels to both of these events. Leading into the 2008 GFC, some financial institutions underwrote products with excessive leverage in real estate investments. The collapse of liquidity in these products impaired balance sheets, and governments back stopped the crisis. Soon enough governments themselves were propped by extraordinary monetary stimulus from central banks. Central banks purchased ~$15T of financial assets, mostly government obligations. This accommodation is now expected to reverse, starting meaningfully in 2018. Such outflows (or lack of new inflows) could lead to asset declines and liquidity disruptions, and potentially cause a financial crisis. We will call this hypothetical crisis the “Great Liquidity Crisis” (GLC). The timing will largely be determined by the pace of central bank normalization, business cycle dynamics and various idiosyncratic events, and hence cannot be known accurately. This is similar to the 2008 GFC, when those that accurately predicted the nature of the GFC started doing so around 2006. We think the main attribute of the next crisis will be severe liquidity disruptions resulting from market developments since the last crisis:
- Decreased AUM of strategies that buy Value Assets: The shift from active to passive assets, and specifically the decline of active value investors, reduces the ability of the market to prevent and recover from large drawdowns. The ~$2T rotation from active and value to passive and momentum strategies since the last crisis, eliminated a large pool of assets that would be standing ready to buy cheap public securities and backstop a market disruption.
- Tail Risk of Private Assets: Outflows from active value investors may be related to an increase in Private assets (Private equity, Real estate and Illiquid Credit holdings). Over the past 2 decades, pension fund allocations to public equity decreased by ~10%, and holdings of Private assets increased by ~20%. Similar to public value assets, private assets draw performance from valuation discounts and liquidity risk premia. Private assets reduce day to day volatility of a portfolio, but add liquidity driven tail risk. Unlike the market for public value assets, liquidity in private assets may be disrupted for much longer during a crisis.
- Increased AUM of strategies that sell on ‘Autopilot’: Over the past decade there was strong growth in Passive and Systematic strategies they rely on momentum and asset volatility to determine the level of risk taking (e.g. volatility targeting, risk parity, trend following, option hedging, etc.). A market shock would prompt these strategies to programmatically sell into weakness. For example, we estimate that futures-based strategies grew by ~$1T over the past decade, and option based hedging strategies increased their potential selling impact from ~3 days of average futures volume, to ~7 days of average volume.
- Trends in liquidity provision: The model of liquidity provision changed in a close analogy to the shift from active/value to passive/momentum. In market making, this has been a shift from human market makers that are slower and often rely on valuations (reversion), to programmatic liquidity that is faster and relies on volatility based VAR to quickly adjust the amount of risk taking (liquidity provision). This trend strengthens momentum and reduces day to day volatility, but increases the risk of disruptions such as the ones we saw on a smaller scale in May 2010, October 2014 and August 2015.
- Miscalculation of portfolio risk: Over the past 2 decades, most risk models were (correctly) counting on bonds to offset equity risk. At the turning point of monetary accommodation, this assumption will most likely fail. This increases tail risk for multi-asset portfolios. An analogy is with the 2008 failure of endowment models that assumed Emerging Markets, Commodities, Real Estate, and other asset classes are not highly correlated to DM Equities. In the next crisis, Bonds will not be able to offset equity losses (due to low rates and already large CB balance sheets). Another risk miscalculation is related to the use of volatility as the only measure of portfolio risk. Very expensive assets often have very low volatility, and despite downside risk are deemed perfectly safe by these models.
- Valuation Excesses: Given the extended period of monetary accommodation, most of assets are at their high end of historical valuations. This is particularly true in sectors most directly comparable to bonds (e.g. credit, low volatility stocks), as well as technology and internet related stocks. Sign of excesses include multi-billion dollar valuations for smartphone apps or for ‘initial crypto-coin offerings’ that in many cases have very questionable value.
We believe that the next financial crisis (GLC) will involve many of the features above, and addressing them on a portfolio level may mitigate the impact of next financial crises. What will governments and Central Banks do in the scenario of a great liquidity crisis? If the standard rate cutting and bond purchases don’t suffice, central banks may more explicitly target asset prices (e.g. equities). This may be controversial in light of the potential impact of central bank actions in driving inequality between asset owners and labor (e.g. see here). Other ‘out of the box’ solutions could include a negative income tax (one can call this ‘QE for labor’), progressive corporate tax, universal income and others. To address growing pressure on labor from AI, new taxes or settlements may be levied on Technology companies (for instance they may be required to pick up the social tab for labor destruction brought by artificial intelligence, in an analogy to industrial companies addressing environmental impacts). While we think unlikely, a tail risk could be a backlash against central banks that prompts significant changes in the monetary system. In many possible outcomes, inflation is likely to pick up.
The next crisis is also likely to result in social tensions similar to those witnessed 50 years ago in 1968. In 1968, TV and investigative journalism provided a generation of baby boomers access to unfiltered information on social developments such as Vietnam and other proxy wars, Civil rights movements, income inequality, etc. Similar to 1968, the internet today (social media, leaked documents, etc.) provides millennials with unrestricted access to information on a surprisingly similar range of issues. In addition to information, the internet provides a platform for various social groups to become more self-aware, united and organized. Groups span various social dimensions based on differences in income/wealth, race, generation, political party affiliations, and independent stripes ranging from alt-left to alt-right movements. In fact, many recent developments such as the US presidential election, Brexit, independence movements in Europe, etc. already illustrate social tensions that are likely to be amplified in the next financial crisis. How did markets evolve in the aftermath of 1968? Monetary systems were completely revamped (Bretton Woods), inflation rapidly increased, and equities produced zero returns for a decade. The decade ended with a famously wrong Businessweek article ‘the death of equities’ in 1979.
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