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Post by p2plender on Aug 14, 2017 23:57:13 GMT
"In my opinion, a Liam needs a Paul and a Paul needs a Liam."
yeah and Lendy need some repayments...
A nice video until you login and click on 'default loans'
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Post by lendinglawyer on Aug 15, 2017 6:49:18 GMT
Haters gonna hate.
What do you want them to do? Stop all publicity and expenditure until the defaults tab is cleared and all loans have been repaid with zero losses? Totally unrealistic and not going to happen.
There are 2 gripes on this board about Lendy basically. They've addressed one (clogged SM) through recent tinkering and a few repayments save in respect of bad or massive loans where sorry but if you are in them you probably need to accept you're in them, and the second (default list) is no doubt high on their list of priorities but if they were shouting that resolving the large number of defaults was a core pillar of their strategy in marketing materials that would be somewhat silly I think...
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Post by ozboy on Aug 15, 2017 17:36:48 GMT
Haters gonna hate. What do you want them to do? Stop all publicity and expenditure until the defaults tab is cleared and all loans have been repaid with zero losses? Totally unrealistic and not going to happen. There are 2 gripes on this board about Lendy basically. They've addressed one (clogged SM) through recent tinkering and a few repayments save in respect of bad or massive loans where sorry but if you are in them you probably need to accept you're in them, and the second (default list) is no doubt high on their list of priorities but if they were shouting that resolving the large number of defaults was a core pillar of their strategy in marketing materials that would be somewhat silly I think... Nope, you're wrong, there's at least three, the third and arguably most important, Uno Numero, being Totally Unacceptable VRs which have allegedly been fully checked by "Lendy's own, professional in-house team" before being presented to us as kosher and asking for our money. The misinformation is legion, and I use "misinformation" (VERY) lightly. I would call it something else. EDIT: And it's not just Lendy, FS and others also engage in this lucrative pastime. Lucrative for The Platform, not so lucrative for The Investor.
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Post by GeorgeT on Aug 15, 2017 17:51:21 GMT
" In my opinion, a Liam needs a Paul and a Paul needs a Liam." yeah and Lendy need some repayments... A nice video until you login and click on 'default loans' There have been 9 repayments totalling approx. £7.5 million since 7th July. And another £1.7 million due to be paid later this week, which will make 10 loans repaying a total of over £9 million in about 6 weeks. I think that's quite an impressive performance.
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Post by guff on Aug 15, 2017 18:28:16 GMT
There are 17 defaulted loans totalling approximately £23M and 5000 days (that's nearly 14 years) late.
I think that's quite an unimpressive performance.
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Post by fp on Aug 15, 2017 18:36:13 GMT
There are 17 defaulted loans totalling approximately £23M and 5000 days (that's nearly 14 years) late. I think that's quite an unimpressive performance. I think i'd be as impressed as GT if these all settled in the next month, with interest and bonuses, I might even be tempted to invest again.
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Post by p2plender on Aug 16, 2017 0:12:43 GMT
"There have been 9 repayments totalling approx. £7.5 million since 7th July. And another £1.7 million due to be paid later this week, which will make 10 loans repaying a total of over £9 million in about 6 weeks.
I think that's quite an impressive performance."
We've got the imminent 7 million as well........
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Post by lendinglawyer on Aug 16, 2017 6:39:00 GMT
ozboy I don't disagree there is a VR problem but I don't think that's a lendy issue, and I don't even think it's a p2p sector issue. I think VRs across the entire property-backed loans industry are an issue. Even on residential mortgages they seem to be a totally worthless fee-extraction racket for the valuers and backside covering for the banks (if it goes wrong people internally can say "but we had a VR from our panel firm..."). The difference between the survey of my new house that I commissioned and the mortgage valuation is frankly embarrassing for the latter, and the fact that you aren't required to show the bank the full survey shows you that they don't even want to engage with detail they just want to satisfy a check the box requirement. So my "solution" to this issue is simply to avoid loans where I am not happy with the VR, which is quite a few. I don't see what choice we have, but to be clear I am not condoning the practice at all. P2P, which is tiny, isn't suddenly going to cause a dramatic shift in the VR industry no matter what we say or want. I also think it's unrealistic to ask a few platforms to apply a super-equivalent standard to VR review - they are all in competition with each other so as long as pathetic reports remain industry-standard I cannot see that changing. So yes I was wrong to say there are 2 complaints but I saw those as the "big 2 which are achievable to address" so focused on them.
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Post by TonyL on Aug 18, 2017 19:11:44 GMT
Just watched the video. Is it wrong that it reminds me of David Brent?!?
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Post by GeorgeT on Aug 20, 2017 15:41:13 GMT
Part 2 is now up. I haven't had time to watch it yet:
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Post by ilmoro on Aug 20, 2017 16:11:37 GMT
Provision fund £3m+
Lot of interesting stuff on wind down.
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Post by mary on Aug 20, 2017 17:17:27 GMT
Provision fund £3m+ Lot of interesting stuff on wind down. And 2% of the outstanding loan book would be £3.7m. Looking positively thats nearly 80% of target coverage, looking negatively that nearly £700k used to cover losses to date. Overall I'm feeling a bit better, although there are clearly several £m of losses yet to be be realised from the default tab, but as these will not all happen immediately, and assuming 2% of all new loans/tranches continues to be paid in, and loan quality improves due to lessons learnt, then it is highly probable that Capital losses can be avoided for quite some time.
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Post by littleoldlady on Aug 20, 2017 17:51:57 GMT
The interviewer could have asked what has happened to all the profits (£11m in the last 2 and a half years IIRC). The PF has over £3 but I suppose the rest has been paid in dividends?
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Post by stub8535 on Aug 20, 2017 20:46:11 GMT
Have I understood correctly from the video or have I misheard?
3% margin used in the example Liam quoted. £5m profit in the first 6 months unaudited.
Current order book £163m.
Making more profit than turnover if my maths serves? Neat trick. Whats the secret? Have Lendy got other profitable income streams?
Unless business costs were negligible or loans made were nearer say £220m originated in h1 2017 I cant get it to make sense.
What am I missing please?
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Post by littleoldlady on Aug 20, 2017 20:54:34 GMT
The 3% was either an outright lie or an unusually low example. Their average margin is much higher. A loan paying 12% to us can bring in over 20% to them including all fees IIRC.
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