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Post by registerme on Jul 10, 2022 20:55:52 GMT
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Post by registerme on Jul 9, 2022 15:07:41 GMT
55 delegates contributed to the creation of the US Constitution. Now I'm not pretending it's perfect, but it's done remarkably well for the 230 odd years it's been in use. So I am proposing the US Constitution as an example of a working system created by a tiny group of individuals that puts into doubt your assertion that such a thing is not possible. Ahh yes but they weren't proposing an economic system that hadn't been tried before. They were putting into law (as far as I know) or formalising a system that had continued for a long time. I'm no expert but I don't think any of it was an attempt to change the fundamentals of the economy as for example the system in Russia did 1917 with all the communist/marxist theory that a lot of people then had to endure. I was suggesting that these EU tenets definitely move in that direction of being untested economic reforms. I think you could argue that the US itself provides such a test. Movement of goods, services (with some seriously wacky exceptions *1), capital and labour in the US have historically been freer than in Europe, and provides some of the factors*2 contributing to the greater growth, dynamism and economic efficiency seen in the US when compared with Europe. *1 in Texas you need more permits to become a hairdresser than you do to own a gun, and qualifications from other states aren't accepted. There are many such stupid examples. *2 a single(ish) language being an example of an advantage that the US enjoys that Europe doesn't that isn't covered by goods / services / capital and labour
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Post by registerme on Jul 9, 2022 14:11:10 GMT
Errm, the US Constitution? Anyway, do you think that a large group of individuals will have a higher chance of producing a working system? Or is the attempt to produce a working system simply not worth the effort? Erm...Ummm..Not following.... 55 delegates contributed to the creation of the US Constitution. Now I'm not pretending it's perfect, but it's done remarkably well for the 230 odd years it's been in use. So I am proposing the US Constitution as an example of a working system created by a tiny group of individuals that puts into doubt your assertion that such a thing is not possible.
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Post by registerme on Jul 9, 2022 13:58:23 GMT
Umm, you do know those four freedoms date back to the Treaty of Rome, 1957 - they predate the UK joining the European Community... Yes so much later than my quote. But the point is any tiny group of individuals will never be able to produce any kind of working system by dreaming up a load of virtual axioms. Errm, the US Constitution? Anyway, do you think that a large group of individuals will have a higher chance of producing a working system? Or is the attempt to produce a working system simply not worth the effort?
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Post by registerme on Jul 9, 2022 8:27:00 GMT
That the assassination of the former Japensese PM has passEd by without comment amongst the hysteria of a non~ resignation ... not even lack of attention to detail lets that one pass Parochialism... Abe's name just wasn't that well known here. Nah. It just didn't amuse me.
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Post by registerme on Jul 8, 2022 9:33:21 GMT
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Post by registerme on Jul 7, 2022 21:24:36 GMT
So in his speech today he talked about how sad he was to be leaving "the best job in the world". So... is being the leader of the Conservative Party a better job than being PM?
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Post by registerme on Jul 7, 2022 15:15:54 GMT
And here's James O'Brien.
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Post by registerme on Jul 7, 2022 14:56:00 GMT
Normal Jonathan Pie language warning.
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Post by registerme on Jul 7, 2022 9:15:08 GMT
Poor offering. You should have Rickrolled.
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Post by registerme on Jul 7, 2022 8:59:27 GMT
Resigning as party leader, staying as PM until the party appoints a new leader... That's REALLY going to work well... This is not the end. The one thing Bojo fears the most is being PM for a shorter period of time than Theresa May (I think he needs to hang on for another couple of months to overtake her). You may be right. But we hang the future of the country on the vanity of one man? No. That's essentially what we've done since 2016, and look how that's turned out.
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Post by registerme on Jul 7, 2022 8:38:56 GMT
OK, going to hang on as Prime Minister until 'the Autumn'. God help us. But then again, not sure what the alternative would be. The Deputy PM is Dominic Raab........ I can't see it working. I can't see it playing out like that. Hopefully it will just provide enough breathing room for the Tories to do the job properly over the next couple of weeks. But...
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Post by registerme on Jul 7, 2022 8:09:17 GMT
Johnson has apparently agreed to stand down. He'll continue until the Conservative Party conference in August (I think?)
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Post by registerme on Jul 7, 2022 8:04:20 GMT
I thought it was a good line too .
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Post by registerme on Jul 7, 2022 7:52:39 GMT
someone the other day, not sure whether it was here or elsewhere, had a meme with the phrase "Ships leaving a sinking rat" to describe the situation. A cute turn of phrase I thought. It was Starmer at PMQ.
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