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Post by cb25 on May 16, 2019 16:55:04 GMT
Freed from the constraints of the Lib Dems, this government scrapped zero emissions taargets for new build houses in 2015. www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/10/uk-scraps-zero-carbon-home-targetThis was in spite of the house building companies having spent years preparing to conform to this aim and objecting to the scrapping of the targets. “It is short-sighted, unnecessary, retrograde and damaging to the house-building industry, which has invested heavily in delivering energy-efficient homes,” Hirigoyen said. “Britain needs more housing but there is no justification for building homes with a permanent legacy of high energy bills.” Housebuilders, energy leaders and environmentalists were similarly critical of the move." Why did the Tories do it? It seemed bizarre atr the time, pandering to the climate change deniers. If house builders were keen on producing houses to that standard, what stopped them going ahead with it despite it not being a government policy? Presumably there would be a market for homes that were very energy efficient.
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Post by adrianc on May 16, 2019 17:13:47 GMT
If house builders were keen on producing houses to that standard, what stopped them going ahead with it despite it not being a government policy? Presumably there would be a market for homes that were very energy efficient. Simple - it would have made the houses more expensive, a premium that the market wouldn't have been willing to pay given the choice.
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Post by cb25 on May 20, 2019 10:39:59 GMT
captainconfident themushypea This may be of interest to you - "More than 130,000 trees are to be planted in English towns .. grants for the plantings will be made available through the Urban Tree Challenge Fund .. The scheme .. will be open to individuals", article here
Government info on the scheme here "More information and application forms will be available from 23 May 2019"
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Post by martin44 on Aug 12, 2019 22:48:23 GMT
Having watched a BBC programme this evening centred around de-forestation, i thought it may prove a Resurrection point to the thread..... it certainly does not happen often, but the BBC actually put out a climate change programme that i not only agreed with, but one i have been harping on about to family and friends (no doubt annoyingly) for years.. there's too much carbon in the atmosphere because we are decimating the forest's...WE NEED TREES it's called PHOTOSYTHESIS...... PHGOTOSYTHESIS = OXYGEN. Its not rocket science.
Edit... Its not cars, planes or trains, or whatever..... Its not what we are adding, its what we are decimating...
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Post by adrianc on Aug 13, 2019 11:01:28 GMT
Having watched a BBC programme this evening centred around de-forestation, i thought it may prove a Resurrection point to the thread..... it certainly does not happen often, but the BBC actually put out a climate change programme that i not only agreed with, but one i have been harping on about to family and friends (no doubt annoyingly) for years.. there's too much carbon in the atmosphere because we are decimating the forest's...WE NEED TREES it's called PHOTOSYTHESIS...... PHGOTOSYTHESIS = OXYGEN. Its not rocket science. Edit... Its not cars, planes or trains, or whatever..... Its not what we are adding, its what we are decimating... It's both. We are massively reducing the planet's ability to deal with atmospheric carbon AT THE SAME TIME as adding vast amounts of carbon to the atmosphere. Also... Trees lock carbon into a short-term cycle, for a hundred years or so max. Simultaneously, we're releasing it from fossil sources, a long-term cycle, millions of years. To put temperature changes into scale, have a look at this... Many will dismiss it because "It's just a cartoon", but XKCD has a very solid science background. xkcd.com/1732/ And, as ever with XKCD, the mouseover text is worth reading... [After setting your car on fire] Listen, your car's temperature has changed before.
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Post by spareapennyor2 on Aug 16, 2019 9:03:47 GMT
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Post by KoR_Wraith on Aug 16, 2019 10:36:58 GMT
The problem is unfortunately I don't think that we can do much about it, the damage is done. I once calculated that if every country (including China for instance) conformed to the Kyoto protocol, it would be about 3000 years before we had save the amount of CO2 that we have put into the atmosphere since either the industrial revolution or the early 1960s (I forget which, I do not have my calculations to hand, it was one of these dates), but it is still 3000 years. What we are doing at present, even if we create a zero carbon emission society, is going to have virtually no effect. It will stop/reduce further worsening of the situation.
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Post by jj on Aug 16, 2019 10:46:00 GMT
Lucky solar cycle 25 has started. Give us a little bit more time.
Looks like meat is back on the menu.
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Post by captainconfident on Aug 16, 2019 12:28:16 GMT
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Post by adrianc on Aug 16, 2019 12:49:54 GMT
Ohnoes! One trivially easy gesture might not be utterly perfect! Let's not do ANYTHING, then.
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Post by martin44 on Aug 16, 2019 20:46:40 GMT
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Post by adrianc on Aug 17, 2019 7:35:29 GMT
Definitely evidence of climate change, but not sure its heat all the way... Balanced view? Climate change isn't going to be "heat all the way" - the UK is unusually warm (and, especially, flat-climate) for our latitude because of various air streams over the oceans. They're very finely balanced, and are at serious risk. This damp lump of rock will probably be damper.
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Post by martin44 on Aug 19, 2019 19:27:01 GMT
Interesting "alternative?" look at carbon emissions... specifically carbon dioxide.. given the inane "carbon emissions" rhetoric spewing out from the govt and the BBC, amongst many others, its important to understand exactly which carbon emissions are being referred to..... and maybe someone who certainly should be at least listened to due to his forward looking past.. here to read www.thegwpf.org/patrick-moore-should-we-celebrate-carbon-dioxide/ here to listen www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Z5FdwWw_c Interesting look at global emissions. |
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Post by adrianc on Aug 19, 2019 19:39:01 GMT
You know it's not that Patrick Moore, right?  He'd already been dead three years at the date of that speech. So who is the "Global Warming Policy Foundation", whom this other Patrick Moore was speaking on behalf of? It's Nigel Lawson's climate-change-denial lobbying body. You've linked to their annual keynote preach to the choir.
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Post by martin44 on Aug 19, 2019 19:39:23 GMT
Definitely evidence of climate change, but not sure its heat all the way... Balanced view? - the UK is unusually warm (and, especially, flat-climate) for our latitude because of various air streams over the oceans. They're very finely balanced, and are at serious risk. This damp lump of rock will probably be damper. interesting comment because i haven't heard any news channels stating climate change will make the planet (or any part of it) cooler.
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