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Post by martin44 on Jan 26, 2023 20:34:02 GMT
maybe we should invite the rest of the world to reach our goals of 1% of the global emissions... which we have now reached... then talk.. in the meantime detach electric prices from gas prices, give us all the cheap leccy we are constantly being promised from the likes of octopus energy et al... and maybe start to think about the people who die here... every year... because they have been frightened into turning their heating on. think you are missing a not Nope.
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Post by martin44 on Jan 26, 2023 21:03:43 GMT
maybe we should invite the rest of the world to reach our goals of 1% of the global emissions... Umm...? There's 195 countries in the world. If every one hit 1% of global emissions... The UK's CO2eq greenhouse emissions are roughly in proportion with our population - just under 1% of the global total for both. But that doesn't affect the minor detail that the total's way too high, does it? I agree.. good point.. as this shows.. www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/
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Post by adrianc on Jan 26, 2023 21:12:43 GMT
Umm...? There's 195 countries in the world. If every one hit 1% of global emissions... The UK's CO2eq greenhouse emissions are roughly in proportion with our population - just under 1% of the global total for both. But that doesn't affect the minor detail that the total's way too high, does it? I agree.. good point.. as this shows.. www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/Now sort by "per capita" ...and if you sort by 1yr growth %age, UK is top of the reductions.
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Post by martin44 on Jan 26, 2023 21:21:29 GMT
Now sort by "per capita" ...and if you sort by 1yr growth %age, UK is top of the reductions. So am i ok to go back to my original point?
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Post by adrianc on Jan 26, 2023 22:37:25 GMT
Now sort by "per capita" ...and if you sort by 1yr growth %age, UK is top of the reductions. So am i ok to go back to my original point? What, the 1% one...? <grin> I'm guessing you meant that the UK's not doing too badly on emission targets? Indeed. But that was 2016. They fell by 13% from 2019 to 2022, down to 478m, instead of 376m in 2016. www.ons.gov.uk/economy/environmentalaccounts/bulletins/ukenvironmentalaccounts/2022I suspect some accounting complexity there, because that sounds like a large increase. Great, so all we need is a mahoosive cost-of-living crisis, leading to a plummet in consumer spending, and we'll drop even further! I wonder if there might be any contributory factor between 2019 and 2022?
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Post by martin44 on Jan 26, 2023 22:42:40 GMT
I wish id never asked
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Post by keitha on Jan 27, 2023 16:12:42 GMT
OK
IMHO we need to do several things
1) better insulate UK property, Mine is not brilliantly insulated and has solid stone walls, Ive used 4,100 kWh of gas since mid October, tracking back Its about 7,500 for the last year. that is about 33% below the UK average.
2) Teach people how to use gas boilers, my usage is down 20% or more, over the last 2 years, I have the return flow ( as indicated on the gauge on the boiler) at 55, yes it takes a little longer to warm up but because at 55 the condensing boiler condenses it runs cheaper. On average my boiler which is rated at 28kWh is modulating down to 7.5kWh.
3) stop heating the street I went for a walk earlier I can see plumes of steam coming from boiler exhausts and the same houses have windows open. One of my neighbours only wears shorts and tee shirts in the house because they have the thermostat at 25 degrees.
4) stop the greenwashing of electricity, the majority of people in the UK are on tariffs that are "green", but we still get 45% or more from gas most of the time, your supplier supplies from the grid, if 40% is generated from gas 40% of what you are using is coming from gas, you are not only getting green electrons.
5) invest in storage, and encourage individuals to do it. at the moment I charge my battery overnight at 7.5P and that keeps me going most of the day,
6) stop the BS about hydrogen, burning FF to create electricity to make hydrogen is not green.
7) stop wasting food especially meat
8) encourage / Subsidise rooftop solar, and pay a decent rate for export, even the best are paying 1/3 of what a unit costs the worst are paying as little as 1 or 2P per kWh,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 9:42:40 GMT
It is worth reading some of the responses to this real Met Police trying to prosecute Just Stop Oil for the M25 stoppage.
Imagine anything else stopped the M25, fuel leak, convoy, road works etc etc are they seeking to prosecute anyone?
All very odd
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Post by mogish on Jan 31, 2023 20:07:13 GMT
Spent the weekend in our motorhome at a new site in braemar. They now supply hook up via a pre loaded electric payment card.
We run fridge lights diesel heater( start up is heavy) and we used 43p in 2 days.
Well chuffed.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 31, 2023 20:42:30 GMT
Spent the weekend in our motorhome at a new site in braemar. They now supply hook up via a pre loaded electric payment card. We run fridge lights diesel heater( start up is heavy) and we used 43p in 2 days. Well chuffed. I've yet to experience a metered hookup, so that is reassuring. Wondering how many of our favourite sites with EH have now installed meters. Do you have warm air heating - if so in this weather I'd have thought you'd also have been running hot air fan for some time (plus water pump).
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jan 31, 2023 20:45:43 GMT
It is worth reading some of the responses to this real Met Police trying to prosecute Just Stop Oil for the M25 stoppage.
Imagine anything else stopped the M25, fuel leak, convoy, road works etc etc are they seeking to prosecute anyone?
All very odd
if you damage the road they are likely to be after you more usually your insurer (obviously not roadworks that is fixing the damage). Deliberately stopping traffic I don't know. but I hope the people who did it get prosecuted, and fined for the disruption. Maybe individuals who got held up could sue if they missed appointments, were late picking up children, etc, I hope so!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 22:54:41 GMT
But there are lots of reasons the traffic gets held up. Do the police go looking for victims then?
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Post by bernythedolt on Feb 1, 2023 12:30:17 GMT
Lots of reasons, most of which are not an offence. Obstructing the King's Highway is an offence, and yes there are victims. Good on the police, I say. About time these anarchists were made accountable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 17:38:26 GMT
Nah, you drive too fast on the motorway and cause a pile up stopping the road they don't come looking for more victims who were held up to increase the charges. Most of these people are not anarchists they are scared people who want a future for their children.
anarchists don't forwarn the police that they were going to close the M25, that is what happened
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Post by benaj on Feb 1, 2023 18:16:31 GMT
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