james100
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Post by james100 on Oct 14, 2020 19:07:02 GMT
<snip> Edit: I'm making an assumption that at some point I might well find myself in a tier3/red/whatever zone or be part of a "circuit-break"/lockdown and the phrase "essential travel" may get wheeled out again. Difficult to comment without full info, but if you are currently in a tier 3, and if your paperwork address tracks to a tier 3 (driving licence) then I would say you should definitely try to bring evidence that your ordinary residency is (or is imminently) the destination country. And that's just UK. If you're driving through W. Europe then I would be careful to check rules which may be in operation there (e.g. statutory declaration requirement for France etc) just a bit of planning and I'm sure it will be fine.
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Post by michaelc on Oct 14, 2020 19:25:28 GMT
Many thanks for all suggestions. I'm not currently in a tier 3 but who knows what is going to happen next? For transiting I use this pretty good resource. I didn't see anything about a declaration to transit France though. reopen.europa.eu/en/map/FRA/2003
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Post by james100 on Oct 14, 2020 19:50:44 GMT
Many thanks for all suggestions. I'm not currently in a tier 3 but who knows what is going to happen next? For transiting I use this pretty good resource. I didn't see anything about a declaration to transit France though. reopen.europa.eu/en/map/FRA/2003That link looks great. For the terms where transiting is permitted, I interpreted it to mean that 1) and 2) would require you to evidence you were transiting to a "home country" i.e. evidence habitual/ordinary residency required; and (or) 3) applicable to the airport transit zone only. The declaration for UK to France is referenced here: uk.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-UK-and-French-travel-and-quarantine-measures (scroll down to the sworn statement download - very easy to complete and I'd take it) and general info on requirements for France is here: www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/entry-requirements
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Post by michaelc on Oct 14, 2020 20:07:55 GMT
Many thanks for all suggestions. I'm not currently in a tier 3 but who knows what is going to happen next? For transiting I use this pretty good resource. I didn't see anything about a declaration to transit France though. reopen.europa.eu/en/map/FRA/2003That link looks great. For the terms where transiting is permitted, I interpreted it to mean that 1) and 2) would require you to evidence you were transiting to a "home country" i.e. evidence habitual/ordinary residency required; and (or) 3) applicable to the airport transit zone only. The declaration for UK to France is referenced here: uk.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-UK-and-French-travel-and-quarantine-measures (scroll down to the sworn statement download - very easy to complete and I'd take it) and general info on requirements for France is here: www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/entry-requirementsI'm not going to have much in the form of documentation but I will have copies of birth/marriage certificates and pics of docs in a non-eu language showing some life in that country. I suppose I'm going to have to pin my hopes on a bloke in his 40s, own his own with a car full of childrens stuff (car seats, pushchairs etc) is unlikely to be going on holiday and my story is believable. It starting to sound like discretion may well play a part 8-( Anyway, I've hijacked this thread for too long (although perhaps of interest in the general case...maybe...) - thanks for your and everyone's comments on the matter.
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Post by travolta on Oct 14, 2020 20:13:53 GMT
I'm not going to have much in the form of documentation but I will have copies of birth/marriage certificates and pics of docs in a non-eu language showing some life in that country. I suppose I'm going to have to pin my hopes on a bloke in his 40s, own his own with a car full of childrens stuff (car seats, pushchairs etc) is unlikely to be going on holiday and my story is believable. It starting to sound like discretion may well play a part 8-( Anyway, I've hijacked this thread for too long (although perhaps of interest in the general case...maybe...) - thanks for your and everyone's comments on the matter. Maybe get clear of France B4 21.00 hrs ....they intend a cufue in larger towns.
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Post by martin44 on Oct 14, 2020 21:04:13 GMT
I'm not going to have much in the form of documentation but I will have copies of birth/marriage certificates and pics of docs in a non-eu language showing some life in that country. I suppose I'm going to have to pin my hopes on a bloke in his 40s, own his own with a car full of childrens stuff (car seats, pushchairs etc) is unlikely to be going on holiday and my story is believable. It starting to sound like discretion may well play a part 8-( Anyway, I've hijacked this thread for too long (although perhaps of interest in the general case...maybe...) - thanks for your and everyone's comments on the matter. Maybe get clear of France B4 21.00 hrs ....they intend a cufue in larger towns. correct... and their stats are whofully worse than uk
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Post by martin44 on Oct 14, 2020 21:08:34 GMT
Maybe get clear of France B4 21.00 hrs ....they intend a cufue in larger towns. correct... and their stats are whofully worse than uk But lets not give boris the benefit of the doubt .. lets all back starmer...
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Post by mrk on Oct 14, 2020 22:11:12 GMT
YouGov poll: Would you support or oppose a two-week nation-wide "circuit breaker" lockdown at the start of the school half term later this month?
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Post by IFISAcava on Oct 14, 2020 23:18:18 GMT
YouGov poll: Would you support or oppose a two-week nation-wide "circuit breaker" lockdown at the start of the school half term later this month? And the follow up questions: a) Would you support lifting the circuit breaker when deaths are still rising after 2 weeks? b) Are you sure? c) Actually, come to think of it, it doesn't matter what you think really because it will be politically impossible to lift it after 2 weeks, so lets be honest and call it a second lockdown shall we? Not sure why local implementation of one's chosen NPIs is a problem myself. It feels a bit like because things are worse in some areas of the country we all have to suffer so that they don't feel they are being singled out.
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Post by benaj on Oct 14, 2020 23:30:32 GMT
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Post by bernythedolt on Oct 15, 2020 1:38:15 GMT
Maybe get clear of France B4 21.00 hrs ....they intend a cufue in larger towns. correct... and their stats are whofully worse than uk Are they woefully worse though? I've been tracking France (& Spain, Italy) because they entered their second wave of cases around three weeks before us, so they make an interesting study. Their 7-day average is today 17k daily cases and 81 daily deaths. The UK's figures are 15k cases and 82 deaths, so broadly on a par... except we are still those three weeks behind them on the steeper part of the curve, so if anything our outcome is likely to be slightly worse than France. A truer comparison is three weeks ago France was on 11k and 60. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
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Post by agent69 on Oct 15, 2020 9:15:02 GMT
YouGov poll: Would you support or oppose a two-week nation-wide "circuit breaker" lockdown at the start of the school half term later this month? As Sir Humphrey said to Bernard, you can get any result you want from a survey depending on how you ask the question (and this looks like an AC survey, where you only get one option to vote for).
Maybe they could have asked another question: are you in favour of locking down low risk areas where people comply with the regulations in order to help out high risk areas where people ignore the rules?
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Post by agent69 on Oct 15, 2020 9:23:03 GMT
The medical and scientific experts made a presentation to some MP's in the last week. There was a chart reproduced on the BBC web site that listed the commonest places of contracting the infection. For people under 30 (who are currently the largest spreaders) the main mode of contracting the virus was:
- visiting hospitality venues - 31%
- working in hospitality - 9%
- going on holiday - 5%
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Post by benaj on Oct 15, 2020 9:23:17 GMT
At this rate, soon or later, most of the UK will go into tier 3 unless cases mysteriously drop or new measures being introduced. www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-54551596London is moving to Tier 2. Are they any measures for medium restriction have an effect reducing the spread of the virus?
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Post by mrk on Oct 15, 2020 9:23:59 GMT
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