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Post by mrk on Nov 7, 2020 11:49:38 GMT
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benaj
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Post by benaj on Nov 7, 2020 12:03:34 GMT
Do you know any UK company does ID check? Thanks goodness it's not carried out by Chinese tech.
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 7, 2020 12:09:38 GMT
Because Margaret Thatcher took a scythe to her Civil Service... and the country cheered while she did it.
Hence what was once done by public servants is now done at greater cost by the private sector.
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Post by mrk on Nov 7, 2020 12:58:19 GMT
Because Margaret Thatcher took a scythe to her Civil Service... and the country cheered while she did it. Hence what was once done by public servants is now done at greater cost by the private sector. The Government already has all the information they need. If she works here for a start she must have a National Insurance Number. She says she's on the electoral roll, which means she can even vote in this country. Why do they need a private company to do a simple database lookup?
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Post by dead-money on Nov 7, 2020 13:41:01 GMT
Because Margaret Thatcher took a scythe to her Civil Service... and the country cheered while she did it. Hence what was once done by public servants is now done at greater cost by the private sector. The Government already has all the information they need. If she works here for a start she must have a National Insurance Number. She says she's on the electoral roll, which means she can even vote in this country. Why do they need a private company to do a simple database lookup? Who do you think is running the computer systems for HM Govt. ? Private companies, private contractors.
There is no part of the public sector that the current Bunga Junta won't outsource to a mate for a quick back hander to their offshore account.
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 7, 2020 14:35:10 GMT
Because Margaret Thatcher took a scythe to her Civil Service... and the country cheered while she did it. Hence what was once done by public servants is now done at greater cost by the private sector. The Government already has all the information they need. If she works here for a start she must have a National Insurance Number. She says she's on the electoral roll, which means she can even vote in this country. Why do they need a private company to do a simple database lookup? Because it isn't just "a" simple database lookup. The article says there are potentially up to 5.8 million people who could be in a similar position. Each individual in that group will have a different history. ID-checking such a large and diverse group is non-trivial and requires resources dedicated to the task. Prior to Thatcher, that would have been part of the normal Civil Service remit, but large chunks of that remit have been hived off to the private sector as we now see.
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Post by mrk on Nov 7, 2020 15:02:45 GMT
The Government already has all the information they need. If she works here for a start she must have a National Insurance Number. She says she's on the electoral roll, which means she can even vote in this country. Why do they need a private company to do a simple database lookup? Because it isn't just "a" simple database lookup. The article says there are potentially up to 5.8 million people who could be in a similar position. Each individual in that group will have a different history. ID-checking such a large and diverse group is non-trivial and requires resources dedicated to the task. Prior to Thatcher, that would have been part of the normal Civil Service remit, but large chunks of that remit have been hived off to the private sector as we now see. Well, it should be a simple database lookup. When you register with a GP they'll check your ID already. So all that website would need to do is check if you are registered with a GP. You either are entitled to NHS care, or you're not. Why should there be different requirements for a Covid test, requiring a credit history?
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Post by benaj on Nov 7, 2020 15:10:09 GMT
Getting a test should be straight forward indeed.
There a number of logistics issues distributing test kits fairly and quickly.
1) testing capacity is tight, there might not be enough to distribute home test kit to “anyone” 2) can someone het a test kit more than once if s/he tested negative first time? 3) possible ID Fraud for getting a home test Kit. someone could be tested positive but refused to isolate scenario using fake ID
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 7, 2020 15:11:15 GMT
Because it isn't just "a" simple database lookup. The article says there are potentially up to 5.8 million people who could be in a similar position. Each individual in that group will have a different history. ID-checking such a large and diverse group is non-trivial and requires resources dedicated to the task. Prior to Thatcher, that would have been part of the normal Civil Service remit, but large chunks of that remit have been hived off to the private sector as we now see. Well, it should be a simple database lookup. When you register with a GP they'll check your ID already. So all that website would need to do is check if you are registered with a GP. You either are entitled to NHS care, or you're not. Why should there be different requirements for a Covid test, requiring a credit history? Blame criminals for that. "The Department for Health and Social Care, which is running the test system across the UK, says it uses a credit reference agency, TransUnion, to verify people's identities to "reduce fraud and prevent multiple testing kits being ordered, diverting capacity from where it is needed most"".
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Post by Greenwood2 on Nov 7, 2020 15:13:32 GMT
Because it isn't just "a" simple database lookup. The article says there are potentially up to 5.8 million people who could be in a similar position. Each individual in that group will have a different history. ID-checking such a large and diverse group is non-trivial and requires resources dedicated to the task. Prior to Thatcher, that would have been part of the normal Civil Service remit, but large chunks of that remit have been hived off to the private sector as we now see. Well, it should be a simple database lookup. When you register with a GP they'll check your ID already. So all that website would need to do is check if you are registered with a GP. You either are entitled to NHS care, or you're not. Why should there be different requirements for a Covid test, requiring a credit history? Migrant workers and she has been in the UK less than a year, but on the electoral roll, is that possible? Not saying it isn't just surprised.
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Post by benaj on Nov 7, 2020 15:17:49 GMT
I would imagine many are willing to offer take her to a testing site if she asks.
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Post by mrk on Nov 7, 2020 15:22:44 GMT
Well, it should be a simple database lookup. When you register with a GP they'll check your ID already. So all that website would need to do is check if you are registered with a GP. You either are entitled to NHS care, or you're not. Why should there be different requirements for a Covid test, requiring a credit history? Migrant workers and she has been in the UK less than a year, but on the electoral roll, is that possible? Not saying it isn't just surprised. Yes, any Commonwealth citizen can vote as soon as they get here.
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Post by wiseclerk on Nov 8, 2020 16:01:11 GMT
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Post by benaj on Nov 8, 2020 17:39:38 GMT
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Post by travolta on Nov 8, 2020 18:19:13 GMT
To be honest most people could take the virus in their stride and get over it in acouple of days. Its only the oldand vulnerable that should lockdown. This is going on infinitum until the vulnerable realise that the NHS is not their to save them (did it ever ?)
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