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Post by michaelc on Nov 9, 2020 12:01:50 GMT
Never mind the sodding markets this VW day !!!! (Victory in the World day). Hope so anyway....
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Post by agent69 on Nov 9, 2020 12:24:47 GMT
Just announced: Pfizer vaccine 90% effective!! UK gov have 30m doses ordered. You need 2 jabs so 15m could get vacinated in the first round (wonder where that puts the cut off age wise).
Only draw back is it needs to be stored at -80C.
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Post by michaelc on Nov 9, 2020 12:29:59 GMT
50M isn't it ? Your point stands though. If it was something like 40 and most people who were offered it had it that would broadly solve the problem (in the UK) wouldn't it ?
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 9, 2020 12:42:53 GMT
Just announced: Pfizer vaccine 90% effective!! UK gov have 30m doses ordered. You need 2 jabs so 15m could get vacinated in the first round (wonder where that puts the cut off age wise).
Only draw back is it needs to be stored at -80C.
Yep. Someone close to me knows someone involved in UK vaccine planning: they were telling me a week ago that they were now defo planning for start of vaccination program pre-Xmas, but logistics were difficult because of need to keep it at -80C. That person apparently said that they and their family were being particularly careful as it would be bloody silly to get ill now.
It didn't occur to me to buy into the markets though....but then it never does.....
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 9, 2020 12:49:10 GMT
50M isn't it ? Your point stands though. If it was something like 40 and most people who were offered it had it that would broadly solve the problem (in the UK) wouldn't it ? lets bear in mind that they reckon they can make 50m doeses IN TOTAL by end of the year. That is not going to go far spread around the countries that have placed orders
> 1 billion by end of next year.
This is great news, but not the end of the news. How long will it give protection for ? How effective is it across different age groups (I think that hasn't yet been published).
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Post by mrk on Nov 9, 2020 13:27:46 GMT
This is great news, but not the end of the news. How long will it give protection for ? How effective is it across different age groups (I think that hasn't yet been published).
Indeed, that's missing from the press release. Early data suggested Moderna's vaccine was more effective in older people, while "Neutralizing titers induced by BNT162b2 from Pfizer and BioNTech fell by about 60% in subjects aged 65-85 years compared with 18-55 year-olds."
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Post by dan1 on Nov 9, 2020 13:29:34 GMT
Great news!
Unblinding the trial the next working day after a Biden victory - wow!
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Post by IFISAcava on Nov 9, 2020 13:39:01 GMT
Great news! Unblinding the trial the next working day after a Biden victory - wow! it's almost like Trump spent years demonising science (and scientists) and this is payback time
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Post by corto on Nov 9, 2020 13:44:41 GMT
Great news! Unblinding the trial the next working day after a Biden victory - wow! They most likely waited with the announcement
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Post by michaelc on Nov 9, 2020 13:46:13 GMT
Seems incredible to me just how much interest there always is in the US election. Even more so than a possible ending of these horrible deaths and restrictions. Its as if we were just another US state.
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Post by agent69 on Nov 9, 2020 13:56:03 GMT
A week ago markets were heading South and people were predicting the second Covid crash. Wind forward a week and they are up best part of 10% from recent lows.
Eat your heart out P2P.
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Post by agent69 on Nov 9, 2020 14:21:11 GMT
Great news! Unblinding the trial the next working day after a Biden victory - wow! One of the fat boys claims is that JB is too old and frail to be president. I therefore had to chuckle when Biden gave a speach just after he was called as president elect.
There was a long walkway from the back of the stage to the podium. Joe started by jogging down the walkway, but part way along he appeared to run out of puff and had to stop and walk
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 9, 2020 15:05:03 GMT
Great news! Unblinding the trial the next working day after a Biden victory - wow! One of the fat boys claims is that JB is too old and frail to be president. I therefore had to chuckle when Biden gave a speach just after he was called as president elect.
There was a long walkway from the back of the stage to the podium. Joe started by jogging down the walkway, but part way along he appeared to run out of puff and had to stop and walk He's probably picked up Covid while covertly attending a Trump rally.
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Post by benaj on Nov 9, 2020 15:54:19 GMT
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 9, 2020 16:02:11 GMT
not sure what you intended to convey by the bolded bit. I read elsewhere (bbc report?) that the 94 cases were in the placebo group (or majority of ?). I note that in your linked report it says however (not clear the proportion of these 94 confirmed cases in vaccine vs placebo groups)
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