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Post by registerme on Dec 15, 2021 17:35:42 GMT
I was impressed with Whitty's presentation tonight.
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 15, 2021 19:53:46 GMT
I was impressed with Whitty's presentation tonight. Yes. I've said it before, but I'll say it again: thank god for the likes of Whitty, Vallance and (even) Van Tam (I wish he'd drop the rather strained football analogies - but otherwise I think he is very good). Whitty was impressive on all fronts: his extremely clear presentation of facts, and logical reasoning on things like why not to think 'its OK Omicron is less dangerous'; his careful management of the 'restrictions' aspect and in essence explaining o those who might not get it what 'personal responsibility' really means (without using those words). I thought tonight was one of his best. I wonder whether he recognises both that the PM has lost a level morality of moral authority and is politically damaged goods, and hence felt less reticent about being stronger talking about things that he might otherwise defer to BJ. To give BJ some credit (yes I had to swallow hard on that one), perhaps he knows that and they had agreed beforehand on how things would play. On the other hand, my impression of Robert Peston, who I used to have some regard for, goes down with every COVID briefing question session. I'm not sure there is any further for him to go in my ratings scale. P.S. I wish WHO had not labelled this Omicron. Watching BJ do his address the other day, I can't watch him reading out lines referring to 'an oncoming wave of Omicron' without picturing it as an audition for a bit part role in Star Trek (done badly). EDIT: Correcting typo
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Post by registerme on Dec 16, 2021 8:38:52 GMT
I'm glad to report that I am finally done with Track & Trace six days after I tested positive.
World beating!
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 16, 2021 9:15:40 GMT
I'm glad to report that I am finally done with Track & Trace six days after I tested positive. World beating! As a customer, what would you say was a fair price tag for Track & Trace ?
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 16, 2021 9:24:05 GMT
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 16, 2021 9:29:49 GMT
could be of interest. Linking to it here does not mean I have done anything to dig below to see what the provenance of the article is.
Wuhan lab leak 'now the most likely origin of Covid', MPs told
Declaration of interest: I have to say that for quite a long time now I have felt that the lab engineered virus + lab leak was an entirely plausible candidate.
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Post by agent69 on Dec 16, 2021 9:39:43 GMT
So France with 65k cases yesterday is applying restrictions to a country with about 10k cases more? Does this mean that Germany (55k cases yesterday) should be applying the same restrictions to stop French people entering?
Pot, kettle, black?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 9:51:11 GMT
Germany has just completed its election cycle
France is just starting its
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Post by agent69 on Dec 16, 2021 9:53:15 GMT
Lots of chatter on the travel forums about getting pinged after flying, and how concerned you should be if a nearby passenger starts coughing.
Quote of the day - 'I used to cough to cover my farts,
now I fart to cover my coughs'.
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 16, 2021 10:35:06 GMT
So France with 65k cases yesterday is applying restrictions to a country with about 10k cases more? Does this mean that Germany (55k cases yesterday) should be applying the same restrictions to stop French people entering?
Pot, kettle, black?
This is not by way of defending it, and I suspect politics has some role to play, but nonetheless one could probably make some form of rationalisation: - IFF (and I don't know whether its true or not) Fr's 65k current cases are almost entirely Delta with very little Omicron THEN it is rational to attempt to slow the speed at which Omicron infection points are introduced into the country. - In contrast, o the UK is already on a path where Omicron will dominate, and already pretty much is in London (a major transit centre/mixing pot, including Eurostar) o its a racing certainty that the UKs 75k total cases today will be much larger than that in even 2-4 days time (so the 'only 10k more' comparitor will shortly be old news if 'O' has not yet got much of a foothold in Fr) If Fr's case load is currently nearly all Delta, then a big wave of 'O' on top is going to be a hammer blow. How much time in reality any of this will buy them - if any - is debateable.
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Post by benaj on Dec 16, 2021 11:03:09 GMT
Lots of chatter on the travel forums about getting pinged after flying, and how concerned you should be if a nearby passenger starts coughing.
Quote of the day - 'I used to cough to cover my farts,
now I fart to cover my coughs'.
If everyone get jabbed and pass the fit to fly” tests, not deeply concerned if he/she was wearing a mask. Some passengers should be kicked out of the plane for bad behaviours. youtu.be/Lv54ipQx_5c
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Post by keitha on Dec 16, 2021 11:08:26 GMT
yeah the muppet filming it !
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Post by Steerpike on Dec 16, 2021 11:23:29 GMT
Most recent data at OWID shows:
R rate
France 1.2 UK 1.02
Omicron share
France 4.35% UK 2.44%
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Post by benaj on Dec 16, 2021 11:36:32 GMT
Earlier this year, I went out to see a movie in a very “quiet” cinema. youtu.be/DwYjs_gmbPEIt made me wonder if there is anything like Staro on earth. Secret collaboration between nations and nobody is supposed to know about the “data”.
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Post by adrianc on Dec 16, 2021 12:20:32 GMT
Is that a spoof? Please tell me that it is. PLEASE...
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