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Post by registerme on Dec 30, 2021 21:47:46 GMT
You can complain about something without taking action to inhibit the ability of others to act as they wish, no?
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Dec 30, 2021 22:22:44 GMT
You can complain about something without taking action to inhibit the ability of others to act as they wish, no? I suppose their objective is publicity, and arguably on that level they were successful. Maybe breaking into their houses and trashing stuff (those types always have garden gnomes - snap the heads off) would be fair recompense, but I doubt it. Starving them of the oxygen of publicity is difficult but is what would hurt their cause most.
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 30, 2021 22:28:01 GMT
Man arrested after Covid deniers storm Liverpool hospital and accuse NHS staff of ‘aiding genocide’  and just to show how f****d up the whole thing is, one of the men involved is the son of the man they were 'liberating' from the hospital, and this is after his mother had already died from Covid but which he believes doesn't exist. People such as this are idiots, and to some people they are 'useful idiots'. But they are still gullible, self aggrandising gullible idiots rather than the likes of e.g. Wakefield who was sufficiently educated and knowlegable to know exactly what he was doing.
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 30, 2021 22:31:22 GMT
You can complain about something without taking action to inhibit the ability of others to act as they wish, no? Especially if your "cause celebre" is to not be forced to do something which currently nobody is forcing you to do, your slogan is your right to choose, and your method of process is to try and stop others from doing what to themselves what you are arguing should be a matter of personal choice. Still, logic was never a major component of the "anti" brigades armoury.
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Post by registerme on Dec 30, 2021 22:41:04 GMT
Well, as some of you may have noticed over the last few years, I have a low tolerance for idiocy. I try, with admittedly limited success, to restrain that waspish side of my character but... I blame my gran, bless her  . |
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 30, 2021 22:46:30 GMT
Well, as some of you may have noticed over the last few years, I have a low tolerance for idiocy. I try, with admittedly limited success, to restrain that waspish side of my character but... I blame my gran, bless her . So just for the record, remind me which P2P Platforms did you invest with ?  [and we are all in the same boat, or at least participating in some particularly unpleasant P2P platform success/failure/bankruptcy venn diagram.
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 30, 2021 23:15:22 GMT
I wasn't disagreeing with your 'evil' label. I was just tongue in cheek suggesting some sympathy for them for being quite so stupid and gullible. Hell, I've for many years described the Catholic church and previous Pope's as 'evil' - and genuinely mean it. The Catholic doctrine's proscribing of contraception in general, of prophylactics specifically, and its mind bogglingly impractical alternative of chastity, has contributed to the misery of many tens of millions of women and the seriously comprised health and miserable deaths of probably hundreds of thousands if not millions of people from HIV/AIDS. And that is before we even get close to discussing doctrine on homosexuality. That said, I do think the native anti vax movement as represented by Piers Corbyn and his bunch of simpletons/delusionals is not particularly influential and therefore not that dangerous. There is far more serious drip drip of stuff which is coming not from their ilk but from outside sources. And yes, that is evil in its outcomes. In the same way that the catholic church promulgating its creed for its own sake while knowing precisely what that means for 100's of millions of its followers is evil. Good grief does that make me evil in your eyes for having an opinion ? ROFL. I think if one had been tasked by a "foreign player" with influencing the western world, turning them into Covid sceptics and anti-vaxxers, and had then been instructed to "go infiltrate the "p2pindependentforum" one would have to conclude that one's masters hadn't quite given you A* ratings in your subversion classes. And you weren't being given the 'plumb' assignment you had hoped for. I think in that position one would also probably be spending a reasonable amount of time looking over one's shoulder. So no, from my perspective, I hadn't even had a single thought about you when writing that post. EDIT: To be doubly clear, I was talking about the general outside world. Separately, I do feel that the line - which in one form or another is making a regular appearance - that "you disagree with me and therefore you must be persecuting me for having an opinion" is becoming a tad repetitive, and does not of itself add much to the wealth of human knowledge ? just my humble thoughts.
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Post by registerme on Dec 30, 2021 23:30:31 GMT
Well, as some of you may have noticed over the last few years, I have a low tolerance for idiocy. I try, with admittedly limited success, to restrain that waspish side of my character but... I blame my gran, bless her . So just for the record, remind me which P2P Platforms did you invest with ? [and we are all in the same boat, or at least participating in some particularly unpleasant P2P platform success/failure/bankruptcy venn diagram. See JamesFrance's thread in General. I haven't decided whether or not I will reply to it .
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Post by 09dolphin on Dec 31, 2021 0:55:30 GMT
Went to an appointment with my local Specsavers previously booked today at 1350 hour.
I was emailed yesterday that they would contact me before my visit to make Covid checks - They didn't.
Notice on the door to say "ring the bell" to access the store. Did that and spent almost 5 minutes waiting in light rain.
A customer came out so I entered the store. Waited another 5 minutes at the front of the store and was ignored by the 2 staff who were visible.
Walked out 10 minutes after my appointment time.
Does Covid allow, excuse or even encourage this level of customer service?
I'll now make an appointment with a local independent optician. It may cost a few pounds more for my glasses but the customer service will be much better so it's good value for money.
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Post by bernythedolt on Dec 31, 2021 2:06:49 GMT
Went to an appointment with my local Specsavers previously booked today at 1350 hour. I was emailed yesterday that they would contact me before my visit to make Covid checks - They didn't. Notice on the door to say "ring the bell" to access the store. Did that and spent almost 5 minutes waiting in light rain. A customer came out so I entered the store. Waited another 5 minutes at the front of the store and was ignored by the 2 staff who were visible. Walked out 10 minutes after my appointment time. Does Covid allow, excuse or even encourage this level of customer service? I'll now make an appointment with a local independent optician. It may cost a few pounds more for my glasses but the customer service will be much better so it's good value for money. Wise move. My daughter has worked several clinics as a locum in some of the chains. Some operate strictly time-limited appointments, pared to the bone. Suffice it to say, one might question whether the time allotted by some of them is sufficient to conduct a proper thorough eye test, and I'll leave it there. The words belt and conveyor spring to mind...oh, and upselling and other little tricks. Pile high, sell cheap. She always ignores the company constraints and performs a thorough test, and refuses to upsell, because as a locum she's granted that latitude, but staffers won't be. Yes, it will cost you more at the independent, but it's not just the customer service that might be better... Of course, you are not obliged to buy your specs at the testing optician's practice. You get the prescription there and are free to take that to any dispenser you choose, to have the glasses made up. It would be nice to support the independent if you can afford to, but you don't have to. They don't make much on the eye test, most of the margin keeping them afloat is on the dispensing side. So if you want the independents to survive, please buy your glasses there too.
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Post by bernythedolt on Dec 31, 2021 2:14:01 GMT
I'm rather bemused by this undertone creeping in of some foreign power infiltrating our forum, as if our ridiculous thoughts and armchair musings are of any relevance or any consequence to the real world.
Am I alone in thinking this is all drifting a little bit towards the paranoid end of the scale, like some kind of mass hysteria event?
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Post by adrianc on Dec 31, 2021 8:54:56 GMT
Went to an appointment with my local Specsavers previously booked today at 1350 hour. ... I'll now make an appointment with a local independent optician. Specsavers stores are franchised, AIUI. So that store is an "independent" business, in ownership and management, just paying to use somebody else's branding.
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 31, 2021 9:27:19 GMT
I'm rather bemused by this undertone creeping in of some foreign power infiltrating our forum, as if our ridiculous thoughts and armchair musings are of any relevance or any consequence to the real world. Am I alone in thinking this is all drifting a little bit towards the paranoid end of the scale, like some kind of mass hysteria event? If you are referring to e.g. my post earlier above, then to be clear I was talking about the general generic outside world, particularly not entirely on social media etc. Not our tiny inconsequential corner of the universe which - as I was attempting to make clear - I can't imagine anyone being a***d to 'infitrate' or 'undermine'. And as noted, if someone had been so assigned, it would surely be considered as the real wooden spoon prize 
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Post by agent69 on Dec 31, 2021 9:46:35 GMT
Went to an appointment with my local Specsavers previously booked today at 1350 hour. I was emailed yesterday that they would contact me before my visit to make Covid checks - They didn't. Notice on the door to say "ring the bell" to access the store. Did that and spent almost 5 minutes waiting in light rain. A customer came out so I entered the store. Waited another 5 minutes at the front of the store and was ignored by the 2 staff who were visible. Walked out 10 minutes after my appointment time. Does Covid allow, excuse or even encourage this level of customer service?I'll now make an appointment with a local independent optician. It may cost a few pounds more for my glasses but the customer service will be much better so it's good value for money. If you read the BA section of the Flyertalk forum you will see that Covid has resulted in BA removing bacon from the full english breakfast on board, and also necessitate the removal of clotted cream from the afternoon tea.
Who would ever of thought it could have had such an impact.
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Post by agent69 on Dec 31, 2021 11:15:14 GMT
Man arrested after Covid deniers storm Liverpool hospital and accuse NHS staff of ‘aiding genocide’ and just to show how f****d up the whole thing is, one of the men involved is the son of the man they were 'liberating' from the hospital, and this is after his mother had already died from Covid but which he believes doesn't exist. People such as this are idiots, and to some people they are 'useful idiots'. But they are still gullible, self aggrandising gullible idiots rather than the likes of e.g. Wakefield who was sufficiently educated and knowlegable to know exactly what he was doing. And an anti-vaxxer liberated himself from hospital, and look where it got him
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