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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 15:56:37 GMT
The next subject the pc brigade will wander into is ....don't call someone fat...and... don't you understand that being fat isn't a choice or it isn't because I eat too much, it's because ( list psycho babble here)....
Basically Brits are fat because they are lazy, their teachers have told them they are all wonderful and if they foul up the state will protect them.
The sooner people learn the truth the better. To coin a horrid term " there were no fatties in concentration camps". Sorry wrong image but a clear truth.
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Post by dan1 on Apr 19, 2020 16:43:11 GMT
I look at obesity in much the same way as addiction in that most people don't want to be overweight. You could even argue it's much harder to kick the poor diet habit than, say, nicotine, narcotics, alcohol, gambling, etc.
I do wonder what it says about our mental health too. Do we have increasing rates of mental health issues and if so, what is the cause - increasing awareness/openness, ageing population, stressful times, rising inequality,... I've really no idea.
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Post by michaelc on Apr 19, 2020 17:38:39 GMT
The next subject the pc brigade will wander into is ....don't call someone fat...and... don't you understand that being fat isn't a choice or it isn't because I eat too much, it's because ( list psycho babble here).... Basically Brits are fat because they are lazy, their teachers have told them they are all wonderful and if they foul up the state will protect them. The sooner people learn the truth the better. To coin a horrid term " there were no fatties in concentration camps". Sorry wrong image but a clear truth. IMO that is something that needs sorting asap. I couldn't believe a few months ago when chatting to a teacher friend of a friend that in his state school, the teacher has no input on disciple and if any pupil starts acting up they can only make a telephone call to a dedicated security person. When I grew (yes yes when I "when I were a lad" yada yada but still) looking back, it was the teachers that were capable of fully controlling the class themselves who were often the best teachers. I put that down to personality. If you can command respect from the class its because you have a personality and typically care about those you teach - that shines through when dealing with the subject matter itself. The teachers that had noisy classrooms on a regular basis were often the ones who just rattled through their notes without giving a damn if anyone was listening.
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Post by bernythedolt on Apr 19, 2020 18:47:01 GMT
When I was at school, the whole class stood up whenever a teacher entered the room. It was instilled as a discipline. Woe betides anyone who didn't, you wouldn't dare. When I tell that to today's youngsters, they look at me as if I'm mad!
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Post by Nomad on Apr 19, 2020 19:27:58 GMT
When I was at school, the whole class stood up whenever a teacher entered the room. It was instilled as a discipline. Woe betides anyone who didn't, you wouldn't dare. When I tell that to today's youngsters, they look at me as if I'm mad! We stood for the National Anthem in the cinema...
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Post by martin44 on Apr 19, 2020 19:40:01 GMT
When I was at school, the whole class stood up whenever a teacher entered the room. It was instilled as a discipline. Woe betides anyone who didn't, you wouldn't dare. When I tell that to today's youngsters, they look at me as if I'm mad! We stood for the National Anthem in the cinema... And never a day went by at school without assembly.... and woe betide anyone who spoke during.
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Post by martin44 on Apr 19, 2020 19:55:42 GMT
There is imho an unhealthy obsession with the fact that "i pay my taxes to the nhs, why should i give any more" from the general population. FYI martin44 , it is not an unhealthy obsession to have the belief "i pay my taxes to the nhs, why should i give any more". This is because, in 1948, this was the very reason the NHS was established. The NHS was established on the understanding that the NHS would be funded by taxes so that the public healthcare system was not reliant on the generosity of others. Prior to 1948, the system was largely constituted of charitable voluntary hospitals and local authority hospitals, and there was much reliance on charitable donations, both monetary and in kind.
To quote the Central Office of Information, for the Ministry of Health leaflet from 1948: It will provide you with all medical, dental and nursing care. Everyone — rich or poor, man, woman or child — can use it or any part of it. There are no charges, except for a few special items. There are no insurance qualifications. But it is not a “charity”. You are all paying for it, mainly as tax payers, and it will relieve your money worries in time of illness.As much as agree with your sentiment, this is 2020... not 1948.. i could list a whole host of promises made in the distant past that hold no credence today,unfortunately we have to live today, in 2020, a time that recently looked like P2P was a good investment opportunity, Donald could be president and brexit will never happen.. all stuff that just 5 years ago was thought impossible. Times are a changing. And as an addition, i agree with you comment up thread, i'm more than happy to move on.
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Apr 19, 2020 19:55:48 GMT
We stood for the National Anthem in the cinema... And never a day went by at school without assembly.... and woe betide anyone who spoke during. We helped old ladies across the road. (Completely irrespective of whether they want to cross or not, we industrialised the process by forming them into herds and stampeding them)
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Post by martin44 on Apr 19, 2020 19:58:56 GMT
And never a day went by at school without assembly.... and woe betide anyone who spoke during. We helped old ladies across the road. (Completely irrespective of whether they want to cross or not, we industrialised the process by forming them into herds and stampeding them) As a scout back in 1966 , i can definitely agree with that.
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Post by martin44 on Apr 19, 2020 20:20:11 GMT
I look at obesity in much the same way as addiction in that most people don't want to be overweight. You could even argue it's much harder to kick the poor diet habit than, say, nicotine, narcotics, alcohol, gambling, etc. I do wonder what it says about our mental health too. Do we have increasing rates of mental health issues and if so, what is the cause - increasing awareness/openness, ageing population, stressful times, rising inequality,... I've really no idea. I agree.. why not simply bring back PE and GAMES.. twice a week... Casper was the best illustration of late 60s/early 70s ever, personally i don't think it was such a bad thing, i doubt it would be tolerated today.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Apr 19, 2020 20:26:22 GMT
The next subject the pc brigade will wander into is ....don't call someone fat...and... don't you understand that being fat isn't a choice or it isn't because I eat too much, it's because ( list psycho babble here).... Basically Brits are fat because they are lazy, their teachers have told them they are all wonderful and if they foul up the state will protect them. The sooner people learn the truth the better. To coin a horrid term " there were no fatties in concentration camps". Sorry wrong image but a clear truth. IMO that is something that needs sorting asap. I couldn't believe a few months ago when chatting to a teacher friend of a friend that in his state school, the teacher has no input on disciple and if any pupil starts acting up they can only make a telephone call to a dedicated security person.When I grew (yes yes when I "when I were a lad" yada yada but still) looking back, it was the teachers that were capable of fully controlling the class themselves who were often the best teachers. I put that down to personality. If you can command respect from the class its because you have a personality and typically care about those you teach - that shines through when dealing with the subject matter itself. The teachers that had noisy classrooms on a regular basis were often the ones who just rattled through their notes without giving a damn if anyone was listening. As I recall the 'real' teachers only had to look at you sideways and you did what they said, even if it was a lady teacher 4ft nothing tall (we had one). They didn't need to do anything you just knew...On the other hand there were some you could play like a fiddle. Unfortunately the ones you could play rarely got to teach even if they would have been brilliant teachers, I did feel sorry for some of them, usually young idealistic but hopeless, those were the days.
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The NHS.
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Post by one21 on Apr 19, 2020 21:00:33 GMT
I look at obesity in much the same way as addiction in that most people don't want to be overweight. You could even argue it's much harder to kick the poor diet habit than, say, nicotine, narcotics, alcohol, gambling, etc. I do wonder what it says about our mental health too. Do we have increasing rates of mental health issues and if so, what is the cause - increasing awareness/openness, ageing population, stressful times, rising inequality,... I've really no idea. I agree sugar is such an addictive substance especially when combined with certain fats as in cakes and biscuits, chocolate etc. I think supermarkets have much to answer for. Years ago there was not so much available at such low cost. Typically shoppers see others shopping trolleys and just think its normal to purchase such junk food, probably now engrained their subconscious.
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Post by martin44 on Apr 21, 2020 20:45:38 GMT
As much as agree with your sentiment, this is 2020... not 1948.. I know, but that's not my problem. Nor is it a problem that will be addressed by charitable donations. It requires a government that has the balls to touch the untouchable (NHS). That's the only solution. Agree... i doubt any govt has the balls to actually admit the true cost of a fully operational/functional and waiting time free service on the NHS, it is available tho.. its called "going private" I could expand on my principle of this with regards to the NHS, but i dont think it would go down well with many people..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2020 10:05:11 GMT
I suspect the cost of a fully functioning NHS is not to have a fully functioning army, navy and airforce.
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