ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jan 12, 2022 21:37:45 GMT
Actually I think Priti would appeal to the membership more than Rishi, or Gove. I have a leaning towards Liz Truss. but yes in a straight fight Farage would win Hands down, and IMHO would win a subsequent electionI agree. It often comes down to conviction of belief and perceived competence rather than political allegiance. e.g. Tony Benn would probably still do well even though he is "extreme" left wing. Farage no doubt at all would do well as a close to extreme right winger. Even in the middle you have people like Charles Kennedy who came across well to their electorate. (As I recall they booted him due to him having a few beers too many. Idiots). Those that talk the talk just to get their tongue inside of Westminster are generally despised. Sadly, most on both benches fit that description. As for Truss, Patel or clever cloggs Gove, they are all a waste of space. Not convinced by Tony Benn, hed probably win in a die hard Labour seat where you could pin a rosette on anything but I suspect hed struggle elsewhere 
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Post by adrianc on Jan 12, 2022 21:58:50 GMT
Not convinced by Tony Benn, hed probably win in a die hard Labour seat where you could pin a rosette on anything but I suspect hed struggle elsewhere  He'd certainly struggle to do much campaigning now... what with having died eight years ago... At the last couple of elections he fought, 1992 and 1997, he only had a ~5k majority - which he didn't even increase in 1997's Labour landslide - and the seat was won by the LDs in the two elections after he retired, before Labour got a 550 vote majority in 2010...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 22:04:02 GMT
Farish famously couldn't organise a party for his bond traders in a brewery. Literally, so the idea of him in any position of power is as silly as Boris.
Kennedy suffered from dying from alcoholism which takes him out of the running.
Moscow / Ukraine but not that well up on the others you mention.
Farish, of course, was a journalist on your favourite RT TV channel.
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Jan 12, 2022 22:23:27 GMT
Farish famously couldn't organise a party for his bond traders in a brewery. Literally, so the idea of him in any position of power is as silly as Boris. Kennedy suffered from dying from alcoholism which takes him out of the running. Moscow / Ukraine but not that well up on the others you mention. Farish, of course, was a journalist on your favourite RT TV channel. I believe prime ministers have lackeys to organise 'parties' And are we really so narrow minded that we would eliminate dead people from leading the country? I am quite liking Pitt the younger making a comeback
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jan 12, 2022 22:34:03 GMT
Not convinced by Tony Benn, hed probably win in a die hard Labour seat where you could pin a rosette on anything but I suspect hed struggle elsewhere He'd certainly struggle to do much campaigning now... what with having died eight years ago... At the last couple of elections he fought, 1992 and 1997, he only had a ~5k majority - which he didn't even increase in 1997's Labour landslide - and the seat was won by the LDs in the two elections after he retired, before Labour got a 550 vote majority in 2010... A subtle jest at the OP use of the present tense but thanks for clearing up his current life status for those less aware. 
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jan 12, 2022 22:36:55 GMT
Farish famously couldn't organise a party for his bond traders in a brewery. Literally, so the idea of him in any position of power is as silly as Boris. Kennedy suffered from dying from alcoholism which takes him out of the running. Moscow / Ukraine but not that well up on the others you mention. Farish, of course, was a journalist on your favourite RT TV channel. I believe prime ministers have lackeys to organise 'parties' And are we really so narrow minded that we would eliminate dead people from leading the country? I am quite liking Pitt the younger making a comeback Im rooting for Lord North, after all he successfully managed to uncouple us from America so seems like a good man to manage the continued demerger from Europe.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 12, 2022 22:42:23 GMT
Actually I think Priti would appeal to the membership more than Rishi, or Gove. I have a leaning towards Liz Truss. but yes in a straight fight Farage would win Hands down, and IMHO would win a subsequent election ... Even in the middle you have people like Charles Kennedy who came across well to their electorate. (As I recall they booted him due to him having a few beers too many. Idiots). ... Not sure you can categorise his colleagues as idiots for replacing him. Loveable character that he often was (and made a good fist of being on HIGNFY), he didn't just have 'few beers too many'. He was a long term alcoholic, sometimes recovering, more often not. And whisky was his primary form of solace, not beer as I recall. His replacement happened pretty much as he was going through a relatively public downslope. Very sadly, 'twas the alcohol that got him and took him at a still quite young age. A flawed character is the term traditionally used I think; one deserving of our sympathy I would say, but made him no more fit to run the country than the first analysis. A pity.
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Post by captainconfident on Jan 12, 2022 23:13:37 GMT
... Even in the middle you have people like Charles Kennedy who came across well to their electorate. (As I recall they booted him due to him having a few beers too many. Idiots). ... Not sure you can categorise his colleagues as idiots for replacing him. Loveable character that he often was (and made a good fist of being on HIGNFY), he didn't just have 'few beers too many'. He was a long term alcoholic, sometimes recovering, more often not. And whisky was his primary form of solace, not beer as I recall. His replacement happened pretty much as he was going through a relatively public downslope. Very sadly, 'twas the alcohol that got him and took him at a still quite young age. A flawed character is the term traditionally used I think; one deserving of our sympathy I would say, but made him no more fit to run the country than the first analysis. A pity. The Liberals/LDs had their share of bad luck with leaders actual and potential. I remember well David Penhalligon, a real genuine public servant who would have made a great leader. Just 42 when he died.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 13, 2022 7:55:29 GMT
He'd certainly struggle to do much campaigning now... what with having died eight years ago... At the last couple of elections he fought, 1992 and 1997, he only had a ~5k majority - which he didn't even increase in 1997's Labour landslide - and the seat was won by the LDs in the two elections after he retired, before Labour got a 550 vote majority in 2010... A subtle jest at the OP use of the present tense but thanks for clearing up his current life status for those less aware.  It was more that he really wasn't "pin a red rosette on a lump of coal", but... TBH, zombies may well do a better job than the current lot. They certainly wouldn't find much to snack on around the current cabinet table.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 13, 2022 7:56:31 GMT
I believe prime ministers have lackeys to organise 'parties' And are we really so narrow minded that we would eliminate dead people from leading the country? I am quite liking Pitt the younger making a comeback Im rooting for Lord North, after all he successfully managed to uncouple us from America so seems like a good man to manage the continued demerger from Europe. ?
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Post by registerme on Jan 13, 2022 10:11:48 GMT
Would at least have the benefit of being the opposite of our current PM, who seems to have dedicated his life to unconscious coupling.
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Post by michaelc on Jan 13, 2022 12:51:54 GMT
Farish famously couldn't organise a party for his bond traders in a brewery. Literally, so the idea of him in any position of power is as silly as Boris. Kennedy suffered from dying from alcoholism which takes him out of the running. Moscow / Ukraine but not that well up on the others you mention. Farish, of course, was a journalist on your favourite RT TV channel.For someone that repeatedly claims I am a troll you do an extremely good job of being one yourself.
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Post by registerme on Jan 13, 2022 13:27:21 GMT
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Post by Steerpike on Jan 13, 2022 13:57:56 GMT
Alastair "dodgy dossier" Campbell being hauled out of rehab to talk about honesty.
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Post by michaelc on Jan 13, 2022 15:22:39 GMT
Alastair "dodgy dossier" Campbell being hauled out of rehab to talk about honesty. Yeah. Reminded me of Beth Rigby leading the charge at Sky against PM breaking the rules. I was gobsmacked. Edit: Should add I'm not at all in favour of any hypocrisy at any level (and possibly/probably the PM should pay the ultimate price) but it really jarred when a reporter who herself broken rules so publicly and was suspended for it doubles down on it.
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