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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 24, 2022 17:26:14 GMT
The point is, the nonsense that Jamie Oliver is having to contend with No, Oliver is choosing to hire people to help him try and avoid faux-pas like he made in 2011 over "Empire chicken"... "Toward the end of the episode, while carving the chicken, Oliver said, "this is empire food, you can use your hands," and then raised a toast "to the empire" while clinking beers with members of his camera crew."edition.cnn.com/travel/article/jamie-oliver-cultural-appropriation-scli-intl-gbr/index.htmlNow, I'm sure you can spot why that might be just a little bit cringe...? And that's the REAL point. That people are recognising their own previous mistakes, and trying to avoid repeating them. Not that there's hordes of bureaucrats descending on them, forcing them against their will... Not outside Daily-Mail-world, anyway. It's far worse than hordes of bureaucrats descending - I'm sure he'd shrug that off - it's trial by persistently offended MPs and social justice warriors on the twittersphere that worries him. The REAL point to me is there are too many intolerants far too ready to pronounce themselves offended over trivially stupid matters, like the naming of a food dish.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 24, 2022 17:40:31 GMT
The REAL point to me is there are too many intolerants far too ready to pronounce themselves offended over trivially stupid matters, like the naming of a food dish. Yes, it does seem as if there are some very offended and intolerant people complaining very loudly. Quite why, I have no idea. What difference does it make to you what Oliver calls his food?
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Post by agent69 on Jan 24, 2022 17:42:15 GMT
No, Oliver is choosing to hire people to help him try and avoid faux-pas like he made in 2011 over "Empire chicken"... "Toward the end of the episode, while carving the chicken, Oliver said, "this is empire food, you can use your hands," and then raised a toast "to the empire" while clinking beers with members of his camera crew."edition.cnn.com/travel/article/jamie-oliver-cultural-appropriation-scli-intl-gbr/index.htmlNow, I'm sure you can spot why that might be just a little bit cringe...? And that's the REAL point. That people are recognising their own previous mistakes, and trying to avoid repeating them. Not that there's hordes of bureaucrats descending on them, forcing them against their will... Not outside Daily-Mail-world, anyway. But only if they are white?
When was the last time a politician from Central / West Africa acknowledged their involvement in the slave trade? The fact that slavery existed in Africa long before white people arrived, and that it was african people in Central / West africa that did the majority of the enslaving, and sold people onto Western European slave traders who were based on the coast.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 24, 2022 17:47:06 GMT
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Post by agent69 on Jan 24, 2022 17:52:28 GMT
No, Oliver is choosing to hire people to help him try and avoid faux-pas like he made in 2011 over "Empire chicken"... "Toward the end of the episode, while carving the chicken, Oliver said, "this is empire food, you can use your hands," and then raised a toast "to the empire" while clinking beers with members of his camera crew."edition.cnn.com/travel/article/jamie-oliver-cultural-appropriation-scli-intl-gbr/index.htmlNow, I'm sure you can spot why that might be just a little bit cringe...? And that's the REAL point. That people are recognising their own previous mistakes, and trying to avoid repeating them. Not that there's hordes of bureaucrats descending on them, forcing them against their will... Not outside Daily-Mail-world, anyway. It's far worse than hordes of bureaucrats descending - I'm sure he'd shrug that off - it's trial by persistently offended MPs and social justice warriors on the twittersphere that worries him. The REAL point to me is there are too many intolerants far too ready to pronounce themselves offended over trivially stupid matters, like the naming of a food dish. I recall many years ago somebody from a minority group was offended by a film that they saw at their local cinema. When they told all their friends about it, they all went to the cinema the following evening so that they could be offended by it as well.
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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 24, 2022 18:27:46 GMT
The REAL point to me is there are too many intolerants far too ready to pronounce themselves offended over trivially stupid matters, like the naming of a food dish. Yes, it does seem as if there are some very offended and intolerant people complaining very loudly. Quite why, I have no idea. What difference does it make to you what Oliver calls his food?To me? None whatever. I suggest you ask those it does offend.
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Post by keitha on Jan 24, 2022 18:51:30 GMT
I recall many years ago somebody from a minority group was offended by a film that they saw at their local cinema. When they told all their friends about it, they all went to the cinema the following evening so that they could be offended by it as well. I recall many years back my late mother looking for programs Mary Whitehouse had wanted banning
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Post by adrianc on Jan 24, 2022 18:54:14 GMT
Yes, it does seem as if there are some very offended and intolerant people complaining very loudly. Quite why, I have no idea. What difference does it make to you what Oliver calls his food?To me? None whatever. I suggest you ask those it does offend. I was asking somebody who seems very offended by these changes.
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Post by registerme on Jan 24, 2022 19:02:51 GMT
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Post by agent69 on Jan 24, 2022 21:12:46 GMT
But that's only 1 politician in 3 links, and he's blaming somebody else.
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Post by agent69 on Jan 24, 2022 21:17:30 GMT
Those assembled are understood to have eaten picnic food from M&S
How the other half live
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 24, 2022 22:24:32 GMT
Those assembled are understood to have eaten picnic food from M&S
How the other half live
well to be fair to the poor chap, he couldn't have got his party food at Waitrose as they are part of the John Lewis partnership and we (now) all know the lengths to which he and his wife Carrie will go to avoid anything to do with John Lewis - as long as someone else is paying for it, obviously.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 24, 2022 22:33:51 GMT
He's toast. Absolute toast, with burnt black bits round the edge. I surmise. It doesn't even matter whether the 5-10-20-30 people who either assembled in this room/stuck their head in the door/were in entirely separate buildings were 'within the regulations'. The fact that people were unable to see their elderly parents/relatives in their care homes, that those relative were dying in their thousands in their care homes; that people couldn't attend funerals for their parents/children/siblings/grandparents is what is going to matter. While BoJo thought it was OK to have people come round in several 10's because it was 'his birthday'. The symbolism of the privileged entitled grandiose ....I better stop. Obviously not my favourite politician for the last ..... rather a long time. Oh, I meant to say, perhaps more importantly, that having such a lame duck complete f****t in charge - and potentially shortly subject to a prolonged internal party leadership battle - at the time when Europe is at a critically dangerous point in its contemporary history - is a tad sub-optimal.
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Post by registerme on Jan 24, 2022 22:51:34 GMT
The fact that people were unable to see their elderly parents/relatives in their care homes, that those relative were dying in their thousands in their care homes; that people couldn't attend funerals for their parents/children/siblings/grandparents is what is going to matter. Yes, I think so. Regardless of the materiality of this "party". Tory MPs are going to be inundated with "I couldn't see my mum before she died because of lockdown..." letters tomorrow. Any half competent person would have responded to such a "party", whether initiated by his wife or otherwise, with "sorry, whilst I appreciate the gesture, this isn't on", and thereby demonstrated, perfectly, leadership and solidarity for NOTHING. He's an idiot. He's always been one. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.
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