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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 24, 2022 23:00:13 GMT
The fact that people were unable to see their elderly parents/relatives in their care homes, that those relative were dying in their thousands in their care homes; that people couldn't attend funerals for their parents/children/siblings/grandparents is what is going to matter. Yes, I think so. Regardless of the materiality of this "party". Tory MPs are going to be inundated with "I couldn't see my mum before she died because of lockdown..." letters tomorrow. Any half competent person would have responded to such a "party", whether initiated by his wife or otherwise, with "sorry, whilst I appreciate the gesture, this isn't on", and thereby demonstrated, perfectly, leadership and solidarity for NOTHING. He's an idiot. He's always been one. Now the chickens are coming home to roost. All of the above.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 24, 2022 23:25:26 GMT
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Post by adrianc on Jan 25, 2022 7:43:08 GMT
But that's only 1 politician in 3 links, and he's blaming somebody else. Umm, where are you getting that from? Five different countries are mentioned across the four links and a quarter of a century. Benin - 1992 UNESCO conference, 1999 President Kerekou, 2013 "Provincial king" Uganda - 1998 President Museveni Cameroon - 2013 Head Chieftain for Bakou Ghana - 2018 one of six person delegation to Jamaican event Nigeria - mentioned
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Post by adrianc on Jan 25, 2022 7:53:49 GMT
Ponce de Leon was many things, but hardly "innocent". He led the conquistadors who enslaved the population of what's now Puerto Rico... That slavery wasn't long-lasting, in large part because of the large number of deaths. When African slaves started to be introduced, the natives were released (by Spanish royal decree following a change of king, but only the Christian ones) into second-class freedom. By that stage, though, PdL had already moved on and was exploring other parts of the region to subjugate... gsp.yale.edu/case-studies/colonial-genocides-project/puerto-ricoI'd suggest they had a fairly good grasp on the historical contribution.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2022 8:25:05 GMT
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 25, 2022 8:38:46 GMT
Ponce de Leon was many things, but hardly "innocent". He led the conquistadors who enslaved the population of what's now Puerto Rico... That slavery wasn't long-lasting, in large part because of the large number of deaths. When African slaves started to be introduced, the natives were released (by Spanish royal decree following a change of king, but only the Christian ones) into second-class freedom. By that stage, though, PdL had already moved on and was exploring other parts of the region to subjugate... gsp.yale.edu/case-studies/colonial-genocides-project/puerto-ricoI'd suggest they had a fairly good grasp on the historical contribution. sarcasm dear fellow, sarcasm
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Post by adrianc on Jan 25, 2022 8:59:29 GMT
Ponce de Leon was many things, but hardly "innocent". He led the conquistadors who enslaved the population of what's now Puerto Rico... That slavery wasn't long-lasting, in large part because of the large number of deaths. When African slaves started to be introduced, the natives were released (by Spanish royal decree following a change of king, but only the Christian ones) into second-class freedom. By that stage, though, PdL had already moved on and was exploring other parts of the region to subjugate... gsp.yale.edu/case-studies/colonial-genocides-project/puerto-ricoI'd suggest they had a fairly good grasp on the historical contribution. sarcasm dear fellow, sarcasm So hard to tell sometimes... More tea required.
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Post by agent69 on Jan 25, 2022 9:52:06 GMT
Any half competent person would have responded to such a "party", whether initiated by his wife or otherwise, with "sorry, whilst I appreciate the gesture, this isn't on", and thereby demonstrated, perfectly, leadership and solidarity for NOTHING. He's an idiot. He's always been one. Now the chickens are coming home to roost. Are we talking about Boris or Stephen Kinnock?
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Post by james100 on Jan 25, 2022 10:00:10 GMT
Think he's writing about the bloke who's allegedly got the leadership of UK on his CV.
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Post by agent69 on Jan 25, 2022 11:41:21 GMT
BBC reporting that the Met police are going to investigate No 10 partygate affair.
This means that Sue Gray will not publish her report until the police investigation is over, and nobody knows how long that will take.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 25, 2022 12:31:53 GMT
BBC reporting that the Met police are going to investifgate No 10 partygate affair.
This means that Sue Gray will not publish her report until the police investigation is over, and nobody knows how long that will take.
Suddenly, the publication of the report doesn't look quite so important. The broad direction of the content has been tacitly confirmed...
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 25, 2022 13:18:35 GMT
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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 25, 2022 13:41:23 GMT
I've heard the sea, and places like East Anglia, described as 'flat as a witch's tit'. Never heard the 'colder' alternative, but will do my bit to keep it alive now. 
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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 25, 2022 13:55:01 GMT
After all, anarchy is such a great way forward. Mob rule is way better than debate and consensus, for what did that ever achieve? Why stop at statues? Let's smash up anything, or anybody, we don't personally agree with and to hell with everyone else.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 25, 2022 13:55:13 GMT
I'm more surprised that 34% apparently DO say "a nod is as good as a wink" or 30% DO say "pip pip" or 43% DO say "tickety boo"...
There's a world of difference between recognition and use.
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