ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Oct 27, 2024 12:52:34 GMT
Paris is likely to be even more unhappy at being too unhappy to make the list (assuming I havent missed it) especially as London is in the top 50
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Oct 27, 2024 13:58:05 GMT
Keith is right, facts don't remain facts. If you studied any philosophy you would know that when it comes to it we don't know anything and can't prove anything. Verification is meaningless as it just means it is verified now but that could change. Yes, that's what I said. Some people still think that evolution is just a "theory", and not a verified fact. Some people think the earth is flat, and not verified to be a sphere. Some people think that mankind travelling into space and walking on the moon is a lie, and not a verified fact. Some people think that covid was a lie, and not a verified fact. Some people think that Biden's victory in the 2020 US election was a lie, and not a verified fact. Some people believe that Putin is not a militaristic expansionist thug, in the face of all verified evidence. Some people believe a lot of things that they've been spoonfed as "verified facts" by the malicious and those with an agenda. Well it is called the theory of evolution not the fact of evolution. Was reading something earlier someone asked the question if "God only created Adam and Eve, then surely inbreeding of their children and potentially Adam with his daughters would lead to genetic abnormalities within a few generations" the answer from a creationist was amusing ( not an exact quote ) "Adam and Eve were created by God, anything created by God is perfect, therefore it follows that the genomes of both Adam and Eve were perfect, thus no genetic abnormalities could occur, it is only over the last few generations that genetic abnormalities have occurred as a result of random mutations, but never in true God fearing Americans. So it is only possible for non believers to have genetic abnormalities if they breed with close relatives" and I thought OK so which is the one true eye colour/ shape, or hair colour/tendency to male baldness or attached non attached ear lobes they are all minor genetic differences. Obviously as God Fearing American they are most likely Republican supporting and white ( OK I may be wrong but ... ) All I can say is if my "vision" of the average Trump supporting guy ( Racist, misogenist, overweight, baseball cap wearing muppet with an IQ around 90 ) is Gods vision of a perfect man, the God needed to get to specsavers, either that or because God created man in the image of himself ... sorry if this offends anyone with strong religious views
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Oct 27, 2024 14:12:17 GMT
In true fact verification mode, do you have something against Oxford, 176? No, I just missed it. Couldn't find any East Midlands cities on the list or Welsh Dundee, Sterling and Perth all IMHO nicer than Glasgow or MK Ditto St Asaph, St Davids and the 'Diff I guess thee are all places that these well educated students haven't heard of
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Post by adrianc on Oct 27, 2024 16:29:33 GMT
Yes, that's what I said. Some people still think that evolution is just a "theory", and not a verified fact. Some people think the earth is flat, and not verified to be a sphere. Some people think that mankind travelling into space and walking on the moon is a lie, and not a verified fact. Some people think that covid was a lie, and not a verified fact. Some people think that Biden's victory in the 2020 US election was a lie, and not a verified fact. Some people believe that Putin is not a militaristic expansionist thug, in the face of all verified evidence. Some people believe a lot of things that they've been spoonfed as "verified facts" by the malicious and those with an agenda. Well it is called the theory of evolution not the fact of evolution. ...with "theory" used in a specific, scientific sense. Not just a guesstimate. sciencenotes.org/scientific-theory-definition-and-examples/I presume you don't find the concept questionable, and agree that it is by far and away the most comprehensive and accurate explanation we currently possess?
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Post by adrianc on Oct 27, 2024 16:30:53 GMT
Couldn't find any East Midlands cities on the list or Welsh Dundee, Sterling and Perth all IMHO nicer than Glasgow or MK Ditto St Asaph, St Davids and the 'Diff I guess thee are all places that these well educated students haven't heard of Yeh, I'm not entirely sure that St A or St D *really* qualify on any sensible classification of "city" on a global scale. Religious-historical oddity aside, they're more like smallish towns, at best...
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 27, 2024 17:17:45 GMT
Yes, that's what I said. Some people still think that evolution is just a "theory", and not a verified fact. Some people think the earth is flat, and not verified to be a sphere. Some people think that mankind travelling into space and walking on the moon is a lie, and not a verified fact. Some people think that covid was a lie, and not a verified fact. Some people think that Biden's victory in the 2020 US election was a lie, and not a verified fact. Some people believe that Putin is not a militaristic expansionist thug, in the face of all verified evidence. Some people believe a lot of things that they've been spoonfed as "verified facts" by the malicious and those with an agenda. Well it is called the theory of evolution not the fact of evolution.IMHO. Not really correct. Or rather perhaps I should say that as a statement of verifiable fact, it is misleading. Firstly, you may be conflating the common usage of "theory" with its use in science. In common parlance, people often refer to something as "it's just a theory" meaning that it is not tested and really is just a proposal or educated guess. This is far more akin to what science would refer to as a "hypothesis". Whereas a "Theory" (capitalised) is a rigorous and tested explanation substantiated by a body of evidence. A Theory is considered by broad peer consensus to be true because of the evidence supporting it, and equally the absence of evidence contradicting it. But critically, an accepted theory is not considered unimpeachable: it is at the core of science that one constantly pushes the boundaries of a theory and try to break it: either making predictions from the theory and then testing them, or from having made observations that don't initially seemed to be explained and figuring out if they can be or not. So in science, A Theory is typically about as close to a fact as you are going to get. Back to evolution. It perhaps rather depends what you mean by "the theory of evolution". One problem being what set of principles you are attaching that specific label to*. The fact that biological evolution is a "thing" is indisputably a fact by however high a bar you want to measure it with. We can see it in action in the lab in real world time. And of course with our ability now to understand and analyse DNA we have a known mechanism for it, are no longer required to infer it in the way Darwin had to, and can trace its effects back over time. IMHO *If you are referring to Darwins "Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection" and its "basic tenets", then I think they are also as proven as you are likely to get. - More individuals are produced each generation than can survive. - Phenotypic variation exists among individuals and the variation is heritable. - Those individuals with heritable traits better suited to the environment will survive. - When reproductive isolation occurs new species will form. As Huxley said on first reading: "How extremely stupid not to have thought of that!"
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Oct 27, 2024 18:28:04 GMT
Well it is called the theory of evolution not the fact of evolution. ...with "theory" used in a specific, scientific sense. Not just a guesstimate. sciencenotes.org/scientific-theory-definition-and-examples/I presume you don't find the concept questionable, and agree that it is by far and away the most comprehensive and accurate explanation we currently possess? LOL I did science at school I've seen fossils that are verifiably millions of years old, It is impossible to me that the world is less than 10,000 years old I think creationism is a load of twaddle
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Post by benaj on Oct 27, 2024 19:17:47 GMT
I was driving around London today. The 15 miles journey took 90 mins, not much have changed with all the improvements from Mayor and the speed is just like what TomTom said.
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 27, 2024 19:26:03 GMT
I was driving around London today. The 15 miles journey took 90 mins, not much have changed with all the improvements from Mayor and the speed is just like what TomTom said. I saw this in your earlier post; Although its been probably about 15 years, I lived in London for quite a long time. Not central, but London. I really struggle to believe that the issue is 20mph speed limits. I remember it was not uncommon for me to have journeys that would average 11-12 mph. Using roads that had 30 and 40 mph limits. The issue wasn't the speed limits, it was the utter infeasibility of ever reaching them at the peak times you were travelling. Putting it another way, if 20mph limits are actually now the primary cause of slower travel times, then that is a sign that other factors that reduce congestion have been successful. In reality, I expect that things have not significantly improved, and that people claiming that 20mph limits are the cause are deluding themselves.
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Post by benaj on Oct 27, 2024 22:17:03 GMT
Yes, I can blame many other things as well.
Lane closures, road traffic cones, temporary traffic lights, pedestrian crossing the road, annoying cyclists zigzagging and changing lanes, sightseeing buses waiting for tourists, camera traps catching motorists entering the wrong lane or area, confusing road signs for car restrictions entering the road / street, unexpected road closures making motorists have to make u-turns in the “temporary cul de sac”
Other measures constantly reduce my speed of driving are speed humps and width restriction in clear roads. Passing through them under 7 mph, width restriction is the worst one, less than 4 mph.
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 28, 2024 8:06:38 GMT
Yes, I can blame many other things as well. Lane closures, road traffic cones, temporary traffic lights, pedestrian crossing the road, annoying cyclists zigzagging and changing lanes, sightseeing buses waiting for tourists, camera traps catching motorists entering the wrong lane or area, confusing road signs for car restrictions entering the road / street, unexpected road closures making motorists have to make u-turns in the “temporary cul de sac” Other measures constantly reduce my speed of driving are speed humps and width restriction in clear roads. Passing through them under 7 mph, width restriction is the worst one, less than 4 mph. which of course is exactly what they are there for. Because roads are not just for cars. But of course these are only normally present on proper urban roads where housing and therefore pedestrians are present. Not on arterial/major roads. On roads where cars could and frequently did go faster before they were put in. I personally prefer other forms of device for moderating vehicle speed rather than speed humps e.g. chicanes. We had some utterly vicious ones put in on the road I lived in London. Of course in good old local council p*****ng our money down the drain* fashion, sometime after they put them in they had to rip them up again and put in less vicious ones. *or would have been if the drains weren't blocked because they didn't have the money to clear them regularly
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Post by adrianc on Oct 28, 2024 8:19:56 GMT
Why on earth would anybody voluntarily drive around the city with the worst traffic and best public transport?
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 28, 2024 8:23:59 GMT
Why on earth would anybody voluntarily drive around the city with the worst traffic and best public transport? I would have thought that your imagination would stretch far enough to be able to answer that question.
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 28, 2024 11:46:07 GMT
So Starmer has said that "...the working people of Britain “know exactly who they are”,". Which is probably just as well, as no one in the Government seems to know.
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Post by keitha on Oct 28, 2024 13:52:29 GMT
So Starmer has said that "...the working people of Britain “know exactly who they are”,". Which is probably just as well, as no one in the Government seems to know. No increases on taxes on your payslip, Does that mean Pensioners private pensions could be subject to NI - Not technically an increase and not working people ( although I d get a payslip ) So VAT could be put on Kids clothes, Private medical treatment, Biscuits, Private jets ( and fuel for same ) Static caravans could all have VAT applied, yes I know the last 2 don't apply to many, Councils could be told a 1 year only 15% increase in council tax increase fuel duty and VED.
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