keitha
Member of DD Central
2024, hopefully the year I get out of P2P
Posts: 4,584
Likes: 2,615
|
Post by keitha on Nov 7, 2024 19:30:57 GMT
Then Texas not doing that bad, with 30 mil population, 181 legislators. 100 U / 300 L split is probably enough for the UK? yet Wales claim that 64 is not enough for 3.2 million, as they are overworked, and are proposing ( I think it's gone through ) an expansion to 100 so that's 1 per 30,000 or so
|
|
agent69
Member of DD Central
Posts: 6,034
Likes: 4,433
|
Post by agent69 on Nov 11, 2024 12:08:56 GMT
I see the COP29 climate change conference (where the great and the good talk about saving the planet) has just started in Baku. It makes you wonder who thought it was a good idea to hold the event in Azerbaijan, a country that gets more than 95% of its energy from fossil fuels.
|
|
registerme
Member of DD Central
Posts: 6,618
Likes: 6,432
|
Post by registerme on Nov 11, 2024 12:15:44 GMT
I see the COP29 climate change conference (where the great and the good talk about saving the planet) has just started in Baku. It makes you wonder who thought it was a good idea to hold the event in Azerbaijan, a country that gets more than 95% of its energy from fossil fuels. Take a look at this then
|
|
adrianc
Member of DD Central
Posts: 9,988
Likes: 5,131
Member is Online
|
Post by adrianc on Nov 11, 2024 12:19:17 GMT
I see the COP29 climate change conference (where the great and the good talk about saving the planet) has just started in Baku. It makes you wonder who thought it was a good idea to hold the event in Azerbaijan, a country that gets more than 95% of its energy from fossil fuels. The COP host rotates through the five regional groups of UN member states - Africa, Asia Pacific, Eastern Europe, Latin America/Caribbean, "Western Europe and Other"www.un.org/dgacm/en/content/regional-groupsNotice somebody missing there? Yes, North America comes under "Western Europe and other"... This time, it was the Eastern European Group's turn to host it. Czechia considered a bid but decided not to. Bulgaria and Armenia put in bids but pulled out because of some minor issues around a near-neighbour - so it ended up with AZ being the only actual bidder. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference#2024Next time, it's Latin America, and Brazil. Because their climate record is just spotless...
|
|
|
Post by bracknellboy on Nov 11, 2024 12:28:38 GMT
I see the COP29 climate change conference (where the great and the good talk about saving the planet) has just started in Baku. It makes you wonder who thought it was a good idea to hold the event in Azerbaijan, a country that gets more than 95% of its energy from fossil fuels. Take a look at this thenYes I read that the other day. Just mind boggling. Or rather it isn't mind boggling at all: opportunists and total s***s with no scruples are everywhere and will latch on to anything which can give them a payback
|
|
michaelc
Member of DD Central
Say No To T.D.S.
Posts: 5,681
Likes: 2,974
|
Post by michaelc on Nov 11, 2024 13:31:06 GMT
Not at all. Some countries don't want their populations to grow beards and live in caravans off-grid.
|
|
adrianc
Member of DD Central
Posts: 9,988
Likes: 5,131
Member is Online
|
Post by adrianc on Nov 11, 2024 14:06:00 GMT
Not at all. Some countries don't want their populations to grow beards and live in caravans off-grid. That's not the only alternative, y'know. The UK has massively decarbonised electricity over the last couple of decades. We've gone from a peak of nearly 400TWh/year consumption to about 300TWh thanks to energy efficiency, while fossil has gone from three quarters of the total to just one-third, a two-thirds fall in the total from 300TWh to 100TWh - the lowest since the 1950s, when the area I live in wasn't even connected to the grid... Total UK fossil energy consumption has gone down from a peak of 240M tonnes of oil equivalent to 165. We can do better still, with relatively little effort. With a little bit of effort, and no real sacrifices to standard of living, we could probably do a LOT better. People say "But what about China?" - China have reduced their CO2 emissions per kWh of electricity from a peak of nearly 800g to 580. Could try a lot harder, but installing more than twice as much wind and solar as the rest of the world combined... globalenergymonitor.org/report/china-continues-to-lead-the-world-in-wind-and-solar-with-twice-as-much-capacity-under-construction-as-the-rest-of-the-world-combined/Which, in large part, is because of the other issue - China's consumption is growing rapidly, as their economy matures and the rural areas start to gain access to the modern world. The big problem isn't necessarily China - it's places like Australia, who've reduced - but only from 800 to 590, because they LOVE coal, despite having huge amounts of sun and huge areas for solar panels... Or India, the world's biggest population and 710g. Or the US, 50% higher than the UK - 370 vs 240 - again, because of a huge coal lobby. France is 56, btw. And that regional oil-wealth superpower Norway? 30. ourworldindata.org/grapher/carbon-intensity-electricity
|
|
michaelc
Member of DD Central
Say No To T.D.S.
Posts: 5,681
Likes: 2,974
|
Post by michaelc on Nov 11, 2024 16:23:35 GMT
Not at all. Some countries don't want their populations to grow beards and live in caravans off-grid. That's not the only alternative, y'know. The UK has massively decarbonised electricity over the last couple of decades. We've gone from a peak of nearly 400TWh/year consumption to about 300TWh thanks to energy efficiency, while fossil has gone from three quarters of the total to just one-third, a two-thirds fall in the total from 300TWh to 100TWh - the lowest since the 1950s, when the area I live in wasn't even connected to the grid... Total UK fossil energy consumption has gone down from a peak of 240M tonnes of oil equivalent to 165. We can do better still, with relatively little effort. With a little bit of effort, and no real sacrifices to standard of living, we could probably do a LOT better. People say "But what about China?" - China have reduced their CO2 emissions per kWh of electricity from a peak of nearly 800g to 580. Could try a lot harder, but installing more than twice as much wind and solar as the rest of the world combined... globalenergymonitor.org/report/china-continues-to-lead-the-world-in-wind-and-solar-with-twice-as-much-capacity-under-construction-as-the-rest-of-the-world-combined/Which, in large part, is because of the other issue - China's consumption is growing rapidly, as their economy matures and the rural areas start to gain access to the modern world. The big problem isn't necessarily China - it's places like Australia, who've reduced - but only from 800 to 590, because they LOVE coal, despite having huge amounts of sun and huge areas for solar panels... Or India, the world's biggest population and 710g. Or the US, 50% higher than the UK - 370 vs 240 - again, because of a huge coal lobby. France is 56, btw. And that regional oil-wealth superpower Norway? 30. ourworldindata.org/grapher/carbon-intensity-electricityAn unexpectedly engaged and interesting post.
|
|
adrianc
Member of DD Central
Posts: 9,988
Likes: 5,131
Member is Online
|
Post by adrianc on Nov 11, 2024 16:47:20 GMT
What I find most remarkable about that is that the UK's reduced electricity consumption by a quarter whilst simultaneously reaching 24% of newly registered vehicles being plug-in electric (16.5% BEV, 7.5% PHEV) at the end of last year... 4% of the total so far, about 2m of 48m.
Shows the "But the grid won't cope" scaremongerers up, doesn't it?
|
|
|
Post by bracknellboy on Nov 11, 2024 19:09:04 GMT
What I find most remarkable about that is that the UK's reduced electricity consumption by a quarter whilst simultaneously reaching 24% of newly registered vehicles being plug-in electric (16.5% BEV, 7.5% PHEV) at the end of last year... 4% of the total so far, about 2m of 48m. S hows the "But the grid won't cope" scaremongerers up, doesn't it?No, because everyone knows current infrastructure won't cope. That doesn't mean it can't be made to cope but currently its a long long way off being able to. For starters, your own numbers show up the error in that argument. As you say, whatever the %age of new registrations are EV registrations, the number of total EV vehicles on the road is still only 4%. So its impact on TOTAL UK electricity demand is virtually a rounding error at this stage. So it says very little. Citing historic drop in electricity demand over (how many years is your -25%?) is not even close to the full picture. That will have been contributed to by many factors e.g. increased efficiencies in existing electricity uses, many of which are non-repeatable. Probably also accompanied by continued reduction in UK manufacturing (I suspect). OFGEM themselves said in March that to meet net zero by 2050 would require an increase in total E demand of 64%. But that is only one side of the story. Its not just a matter of the total generating and distribution capacity. Its also very much about HOW that network is configured/what it was built for. And the grid we have was built for a very different generation and demand landscape than the one we need to move to. Even if there was no projected increase in total demand, the current grid would still not be 'right-shaped'. Or if you prefer, all the right cables, just no necessarily in the right places.
|
|
adrianc
Member of DD Central
Posts: 9,988
Likes: 5,131
Member is Online
|
Post by adrianc on Nov 11, 2024 19:11:35 GMT
What I find most remarkable about that is that the UK's reduced electricity consumption by a quarter whilst simultaneously reaching 24% of newly registered vehicles being plug-in electric (16.5% BEV, 7.5% PHEV) at the end of last year... 4% of the total so far, about 2m of 48m. S hows the "But the grid won't cope" scaremongerers up, doesn't it?No, because everyone knows current infrastructure won't cope. Everybody except the National Grid. But what would they know? www.nationalgrid.com/stories/journey-to-net-zero-stories/can-grid-cope-extra-demand-electric-carsPeak was mid-late 2000s.
|
|
agent69
Member of DD Central
Posts: 6,034
Likes: 4,433
|
Post by agent69 on Nov 11, 2024 19:15:12 GMT
Meanwhile the Numpty from Newport who threw away a hard disk with 8000 bitcoins on it, is preparing a high court bid to sue the Council for £495 million because they won't let him excavate the tip. Bitcoin now up to $86k.
This guy's shovel must be going into overdrive.
|
|
|
Post by bracknellboy on Nov 11, 2024 19:26:28 GMT
A statement you have made several times. Except that is not Grid's position. If it was, they wouldn't be spending £19bn investment in grid infrastructure through to fiscal 25-26. And £30bn between 25-29. Nor have a program they refer to as "the Great Grid Upgrade", touted by them as "largest overhaul of the electricity grid in generations".
|
|
ilmoro
Member of DD Central
'Wondering which of the bu***rs to blame, and watching for pigs on the wing.' - Pink Floyd
Posts: 11,315
Likes: 11,524
|
Post by ilmoro on Nov 11, 2024 19:37:09 GMT
NESO have issued one capacity notice so far but generally expect there to be no issues with supply. Mainly due to the increased importing from Europe, plentiful gas supply in Europe to provide it, no French nuclear issues & sufficient gas imports from Norway, US & Qatar for our own generation plus additional battery storage capacity.
Currently gas is doing the leg work as the 'dunkelflaute' has reduced wind & solar generation significantly.
Not sure EVs are going to be an issue for a while, sales are slow & manufacturers are busy shedding capacity. VW the latest
|
|
keitha
Member of DD Central
2024, hopefully the year I get out of P2P
Posts: 4,584
Likes: 2,615
|
Post by keitha on Nov 11, 2024 19:49:08 GMT
|
|