adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Feb 24, 2022 9:26:18 GMT
24th,told you. All hell breaking out here too. Where's "here"?
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Post by adrianc on Feb 24, 2022 9:27:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 9:53:09 GMT
Putain! In WW2 the UK did not invade Ireland, as it staid neutral. When we were losing sailors and ships at a fantastic rate and could have used Ireland as a staging post we did not invade Ireland. Jesus man, your treating a  as our equivalent is beyond BS! |
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Post by adrianc on Feb 24, 2022 10:14:52 GMT
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Post by registerme on Feb 24, 2022 10:16:24 GMT
I imagine the Balts are pretty nervous right now.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Feb 24, 2022 10:18:34 GMT
I find it incomprehensible that Russia would actually attack Ukraine. They must have other ways to influence (or control) the political direction of Ukraine such as propaganda, threats and maybe a few untimely deaths. As others have said their populations are closely linked so it may be brother against brother.
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Post by gramsky on Feb 24, 2022 10:21:16 GMT
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Post by IFISAcava on Feb 24, 2022 10:28:58 GMT
I imagine the Balts are pretty nervous right now. As is "The West" - would be harder to let them go, being EU members and all.
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Post by registerme on Feb 24, 2022 10:30:52 GMT
I imagine the Balts are pretty nervous right now. As is "The West" - would be harder to let them go, being EU members and all. And NATO members.
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Post by adrianc on Feb 24, 2022 10:30:57 GMT
"How NATO and the West have caused the war in Ukraine"So you're firmly nailing your colours to the Putin mast, along with such sound luminaries as Farage, Banks, Trump... and Laurence Fox?
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Post by IFISAcava on Feb 24, 2022 10:32:01 GMT
A grim day  . yep. Grim for everyone. Lets not forget that Putin has a massive nuclear arsenal under his control, and I'd dare to suggest that he has perhaps started to show signs of having become slightly unhinged. Two schools of thought: he has been playing everything extremely shrewdly and this is his (for now) end game, or he has become somewhat disconnected and slightly deranged and we should be even more concerned. I wish I had faith that it wasn't the latter. I'd be pretty concerned at his veiled (read nuclear) threats of consequences for "The West" if they get involved.
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Post by bracknellboy on Feb 24, 2022 10:33:13 GMT
I imagine the Balts are pretty nervous right now. As is "The West" - would be harder to let them go, being EU members and all. as the Baltic states are members of Nato, yes it would be very hard to throw them to the wolves (or wolf). Extremely dangerous times. Arguably more so than the cuban missile crisis, since one has to question whether the hot seat in Moscow is currently occupied by a 'rational actor'.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Feb 24, 2022 11:01:38 GMT
As is "The West" - would be harder to let them go, being EU members and all. as the Baltic states are members of Nato, yes it would be very hard to throw them to the wolves (or wolf). Extremely dangerous times. Arguably more so than the cuban missile crisis, since one has to question whether the hot seat in Moscow is currently occupied by a 'rational actor'. Not to mention the occupant of The White House, although it could have still been Trump. Pick your poison.
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Post by bracknellboy on Feb 24, 2022 11:10:45 GMT
as the Baltic states are members of Nato, yes it would be very hard to throw them to the wolves (or wolf). Extremely dangerous times. Arguably more so than the cuban missile crisis, since one has to question whether the hot seat in Moscow is currently occupied by a 'rational actor'. Not to mention the occupant of The White House, although it could have still been Trump. Pick your poison. While I might question his competence and his thinking, I think Biden is (mostly) rational. One out of two is more than I would have given Trump. But yes, from a leadership perspective not the best time for this to be happening.
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Post by registerme on Feb 24, 2022 11:20:40 GMT
iirc between them Russia and Ukraine account for some 30% of the world's wheat supply. No guesses as to what this will do to the price of bread.
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as our equivalent is beyond BS!
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