registerme
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Post by registerme on Jul 7, 2024 19:58:55 GMT
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Post by captainconfident on Jul 7, 2024 20:30:50 GMT
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rscal
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Post by rscal on Jul 8, 2024 7:01:32 GMT
"Inside Putin's Brain" eh?
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Post by k6 on Jul 8, 2024 7:18:49 GMT
I dare you to say that to current US service men and women. I dare you to say that to the face of the children and grandchildren of US service men and women who died in North Africa, Italy, the Mediterranean, the Atlantic, Utah and Omaha beeches, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany... all the naval battles in the Pacific, Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal and every other horrific conflict over some small island on the way to Japan. The US is far from perfect. Your ignorant contempt for the US is disgusting. I am quite a big fan of the US (I even have a US passport since I grew up there), but I am against their totally corrupt, warmongering political class. Obviously I am not talking about US in WW2. I am talking about the US in 2024. I am sure most US service personal would agree with me, especially if they were being asked to fight a war of aggression against a superpower like Russia or China in which they would have a good chance of not coming home. The way the US Military is being used is totally Unconstitutional and against the principles on which the US was founded. russia is not a supper power - but well done for you . you just earned few rubles " totally corrupt, warmongering political class " - you mean russia ? "I am sure most US service personal would agree with me" - you have no idea , do you ?
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Post by warn on Jul 8, 2024 7:27:57 GMT
... Who are these tiny collection of individuals to tell us who we should vote for? And who are we, to be told who to vote for by a tiny collection of individuals? Sheep, that's who. Don't blame the shepherds.
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Post by warn on Jul 8, 2024 13:31:09 GMT
" adrianc and michaelc like this" You two actually agreeing on something? Jeez, get a room, guys
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Post by michaelc on Jul 8, 2024 15:00:40 GMT
" adrianc and michaelc like this" You two actually agreeing on something? Jeez, get a room, guys I take it back - he must be wrong....
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 8, 2024 15:10:33 GMT
One hospital might be an accident, two is clearly a war crime.
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Post by michaelc on Jul 8, 2024 15:23:50 GMT
One hospital might be an accident, two is clearly a war crime. Two ? And backup set of related questions, why does either side do this? I don't believe anyone is a monster. What is the war aim? I can only imagine either after witnessing first hand some atrocity on your own side and some kind of desire to "get the bast@ards back" for it. Or if calculated then why? To make the population know that there is still a war outside and they don't need to travel hundreds of miles to the front line to see it ? CH seems a particularly low blow for that. And the more I look at this the more I wonder. I found the hospital on google maps - zoomed in and saw this: www.google.com/maps/@50.4492163,30.4814021,3a,75y,324.76h,99.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTizIrOYYcwRMIkbzhZdFlg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?coh=205409&entry=ttu i.e. a government ministry building. THe hospital building looks a lot newer and bigger than the one we see in the pics. I'm definitely not saying it didn't happen as would be so obvious but why can't I see the building in Streetview ?
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 8, 2024 15:25:45 GMT
One hospital might be an accident, two is clearly a war crime. Two ? And backup set of related questions, why does either side do this? I don't believe anyone is a monster. What is the war aim? I can only imagine either after witnessing first hand some atrocity on your own side and some kind of desire to "get the bast@ards back" for it. Or if calculated then why? To make the population know that there is still a war outside and they don't need to travel hundreds of miles to the front line to see it ? CH seems a particularly low blow for that. And the more I look at this the more I wonder. I found the hospital on google maps - zoomed in and saw this: www.google.com/maps/@50.4492163,30.4814021,3a,75y,324.76h,99.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTizIrOYYcwRMIkbzhZdFlg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?coh=205409&entry=ttu i.e. a government ministry building. THe hospital building looks a lot newer and bigger than the one we see in the pics. I'm definitely not saying it didn't happen as would be so obvious but why can't I see the building in Streetview ? They hit the kids hospital (31 dead) & separately the maternity hospital (7 dead)
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Post by adrianc on Jul 8, 2024 15:29:03 GMT
One hospital might be an accident, two is clearly a war crime. Two ? And backup set of related questions, why does either side do this? I don't believe anyone is a monster. What is the war aim? The obvious answer is because Putin and his command chain don't give the first flying toss. I'm sure Mr Angry will suggest that the naughty USA put missile launchers on the roof, or something. (See also: Israel)
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Post by michaelc on Jul 8, 2024 15:44:06 GMT
Two ? And backup set of related questions, why does either side do this? I don't believe anyone is a monster. What is the war aim? The obvious answer is because Putin and his command chain don't give the first flying toss.I'm sure Mr Angry will suggest that the naughty USA put missile launchers on the roof, or something. (See also: Israel)Utter nonsense. I heard he eats babies for breakfast too.... I've just realised I know where that hospital is because its campus is right next to one office of my old dentist. Its a fairly big territory with many buildings. I can see the temptation to put weaponry in such a place. This is what happens in war all over the world. You put your weapons where you think they won't be targeted. Someone has screwed up here big time - Russia for sure but maybe Ukraine too.... Edit: Back to why they did it. Maybe taking out that Ministry building just before the NATO conference was their aim. I can't see what else it could be.
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Post by adrianc on Jul 8, 2024 15:45:08 GMT
I'm sure Mr Angry will suggest that the naughty USA put missile launchers on the roof, or something. (See also: Israel)<clicks stopwatch off>
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Post by rscal on Jul 8, 2024 16:16:36 GMT
One hospital might be an accident, two is clearly a war crime. This? x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1810328039643136087( That's an AD missile - or it looks more like one and the size of the explosion is not what to expect from a[n intact] landing cruise missle - see below ) Offered for discussion: Source:https://t.me/ukraina_ru/207772
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 8, 2024 17:02:02 GMT
Or its a KH101 cruise missile ... it has the ramjet under the tail and a blunt nose. Image is too blurry to determine. (There are hi-def images that are conclusive but with AI difficult to trust) Of course, if Russia wasn't lobbing missiles at cities then AD missiles would be on the ground.
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