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Post by agent69 on Jul 10, 2024 17:49:58 GMT
They have privately hinted that they might sell some. Not quite the same as saying they will definitely sell them all.
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Post by angrysaveruk on Jul 10, 2024 18:30:54 GMT
They have privately hinted that they might sell some. Not quite the same as saying they will definitely sell them all. It is all a confidence trick: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_run
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Post by captainconfident on Jul 10, 2024 19:02:33 GMT
You have been suckered by your endless search for bad news about Ukraine and your ignorance if current affairs. Ukraine is being provided with interest on Russia's stranded assets, which had matured and generate no interest in the matured accounts they were in. Western governments have always been acutely and publicly aware that actually seizing the Russian assets would undermine trust in banking institutions. So they didn't do it. Try to keep up, multiple sources reported on this issue over the last two years and on the progress of negotiations. Trawling the Internet and pasting this Azerbaijani website here is just useless clutter.
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Post by adrianc on Jul 10, 2024 19:41:07 GMT
Yeh, and Calais and Mumbai are both historically part of the UK, while Paris is historically part of Germany. I am primarily talking about the fact that there are a sizeable number of people in parts of Ukraine who consider themselves Russian and like the idea of being part of the Putin Federation. There's a lot of people in Northern Ireland who consider themselves Irish. Now balance that against there also being a lot of people in Northern Ireland who consider themselves British. Should Dublin invade?
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Post by michaelc on Jul 10, 2024 19:49:10 GMT
I am primarily talking about the fact that there are a sizeable number of people in parts of Ukraine who consider themselves Russian and like the idea of being part of the Putin Federation. There's a lot of people in Northern Ireland who consider themselves Irish. Now balance that against there also being a lot of people in Northern Ireland who consider themselves British. Should Dublin invade? There was a lot of support in southern Ireland for the IRA. As I recall, virtually every pub had an "armed struggle" collection box on the bar.
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Post by angrysaveruk on Jul 10, 2024 20:03:27 GMT
I am primarily talking about the fact that there are a sizeable number of people in parts of Ukraine who consider themselves Russian and like the idea of being part of the Putin Federation. There's a lot of people in Northern Ireland who consider themselves Irish. Now balance that against there also being a lot of people in Northern Ireland who consider themselves British. Should Dublin invade? Ireland certainly has some similarities to Ukraine, although the history of Ukraine with the involvement of the Third Reich and Stalin is certainly a lot more brutal. If you wanted to make a hypothetical scenario similar to Ukraine it would have to involve some hostile overseas power getting involved in Northern Ireland and arming one of the sides with the purpose of causing instability in the UK. The key difference with Ukraine is the direct involvement of the US which Russia perceives as being hostile to its interests.
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 10, 2024 21:18:30 GMT
There's a lot of people in Northern Ireland who consider themselves Irish. Now balance that against there also being a lot of people in Northern Ireland who consider themselves British. Should Dublin invade? Ireland certainly has some similarities to Ukraine, although the history of Ukraine with the involvement of the Third Reich and Stalin is certainly a lot more brutal. If you wanted to make a hypothetical scenario similar to Ukraine it would have to involve some hostile overseas power getting involved in Northern Ireland and arming one of the sides with the purpose of causing instability in the UK. The key difference with Ukraine is the direct involvement of the US which Russia perceives as being hostile to its interests. So that will be Libya then ... the US, the other main supplier, was private supply
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Post by registerme on Jul 10, 2024 21:20:02 GMT
There's a lot of people in Northern Ireland who consider themselves Irish. Now balance that against there also being a lot of people in Northern Ireland who consider themselves British. Should Dublin invade? There was a lot of support in southern Ireland for the IRA. As I recall, virtually every pub had an "armed struggle" collection box on the bar. pub? In Ireland? Bloody hell here's me thinking I liked a drink!
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Post by angrysaveruk on Jul 11, 2024 6:59:52 GMT
You have been suckered by your endless search for bad news about Ukraine and your ignorance if current affairs. Ukraine is being provided with interest on Russia's stranded assets, which had matured and generate no interest in the matured accounts they were in. Western governments have always been acutely and publicly aware that actually seizing the Russian assets would undermine trust in banking institutions. So they didn't do it. Try to keep up, multiple sources reported on this issue over the last two years and on the progress of negotiations. Trawling the Internet and pasting this Azerbaijani website here is just useless clutter. I am just pointing out what a total mess this Ukraine Proxy war is becoming. My advice to the EU and US is when you are in a hole stop digging.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 11, 2024 7:27:08 GMT
You have been suckered by your endless search for bad news about Ukraine and your ignorance if current affairs. Ukraine is being provided with interest on Russia's stranded assets, which had matured and generate no interest in the matured accounts they were in. Western governments have always been acutely and publicly aware that actually seizing the Russian assets would undermine trust in banking institutions. So they didn't do it. Try to keep up, multiple sources reported on this issue over the last two years and on the progress of negotiations. Trawling the Internet and pasting this Azerbaijani website here is just useless clutter. I am just pointing out what a total mess this Ukraine Proxy war is becoming. My advice to the EU and US is when you are in a hole stop digging.And I'm sure they will give your advice full consideration, and treat it with the solemnity which it deserves. Presumably your advice to Putin is to get the **** out of Ukrainian territory and to stop the destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure, the murder of Ukrainians whether at the front line or civilians, the systemic rape of women, the deportation of children, and not forgetting the utter decimation of the Russian male population by throwing them into barbaric WW1 style attacks ? Oh I forgot: it's a US Ukrainian Proxy war. Not an illegal invasion of a sovereign country by an aggressor who doesn't acknowledge its right to exist. Other than as a part of a greater slavic "empire". Albeit of course that it wouldn't have been "necessary" if only the population had been happy with having a Kremlin puppet installed in Kyiv.
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Post by angrysaveruk on Jul 11, 2024 7:29:51 GMT
I am just pointing out what a total mess this Ukraine Proxy war is becoming. My advice to the EU and US is when you are in a hole stop digging.And I'm sure they will give your advice full consideration, and treat it with the solemnity which it deserves. Presumably your advice to Putin is to get the **** out of Ukrainian territory and to stop the destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure, the murder of Ukrainians whether at the front line or civilians, the systemic rape of women, the deportation of children, and not forgetting the utter decimation of the Russian male population by throwing them into barbaric WW1 style attacks ? Yes, in my opinion there should be a negotiated settlement that ends hostilities immediately and takes into account the fact that some of the people in Ukraine who consider themselves to be Russian want to be part of the Russian Federation (and not ruled by the anti-russian Zelensky Government)
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Post by markyg61 on Jul 11, 2024 12:13:12 GMT
And I'm sure they will give your advice full consideration, and treat it with the solemnity which it deserves. Presumably your advice to Putin is to get the **** out of Ukrainian territory and to stop the destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure, the murder of Ukrainians whether at the front line or civilians, the systemic rape of women, the deportation of children, and not forgetting the utter decimation of the Russian male population by throwing them into barbaric WW1 style attacks ? Yes, in my opinion there should be a negotiated settlement that ends hostilities immediately and takes into account the fact that some of the people in Ukraine who consider themselves to be Russian want to be part of the Russian Federation (and not ruled by the anti-russian Zelensky Government)
Perhaps a sign post for those people that supposedly want to be russian then and putin can withdraw his military from a sovereign nation !
"Russia - this way ->"
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Post by michaelc on Jul 11, 2024 13:16:13 GMT
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Post by captainconfident on Jul 11, 2024 13:29:24 GMT
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 11, 2024 13:32:53 GMT
Except as far as I can tell it represents absolutely no actual change in policy, no matter the Sky article. From May: Kyiv can use British weapons inside Russia - Cameron"UK Foreign Secretary Lord Cameron has said it is up to Ukraine to decide how to use British weapons and insisted it has the right to strike targets on Russian territory."
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