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Post by ethel on Jan 6, 2023 11:27:55 GMT
After more "revelations" in the papers today, when oh when is this all going to end? I'm no lover of the royal family, but I do feel sorry for them, and the longer it goes on, the more sympathetic to them I feel. Harry just really ought to shut the f@%k up, live his life in California, and leave us, and his family, in peace.
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Post by moonraker on Jan 6, 2023 12:00:06 GMT
Exactly my views, though I'm a little more supportive of most of the Royal Family than you. His latest whingeings are topping the news headlines. On Radio Four's "Today" programme this morning, the presenter acknowledged that they'd received listeners' requests not to focus on the current revelations, but claimed there was still enough public interest for them to continue to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 12:45:48 GMT
we all know that news programmes are the same length no matter how much news there is everyday
and
no one wants to actually do anything about climate change
so
let's fill up with B listers
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Post by james100 on Jan 6, 2023 13:03:51 GMT
I have enough family dramas to write a book and go on several talk shows. Of course I won't be doing that because 1) nobody cares so I won't get cash for it  but also, crucially, b) airing your dirty laundry in public is pretty crass. As to the public interest, I think it's time the nation acknowledges that the Queen was great and the rest can be binned off now. Along with all offices/role of state awarded based purely on whose body you were kindly birthed from. Harry obviously had difficulties growing up, largely due to the institution he was born into which promotes entitlement and public obsession via the class system - all very sad so I'm glad he's settled down and seems happy with his wife and kids. I get why he's bitter but the whole thing just feels off; if I were him I'd probably moved country, dyed my hair, toned the accent down, lived a simple low-key life and moved on. And when you've got kids maybe keep schtum with the recreational drugs / sex stories until they're old enough to handle it. I remember feeling same sense of distaste towards the Panorama interview his mother did. The irony! |
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Post by agent69 on Jan 6, 2023 13:17:44 GMT
Having listened to much that has been said in the media recently, I get the impression that Harry's main problem is that he has never come to terms with the fact that William will be King one day and he will be a nobody.
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Post by keitha on Jan 6, 2023 13:41:00 GMT
This whole latest episode stinks.
go back a bit and as non working royals they wanted to be allowed armed security whilst in the UK, This latest "I killed 25 Taliban" puts a big target on his back / price on his head. Therefore we are almost forced into giving / allowing him the armed protection he wanted.
They want to live a "normal" life but the circus they are creating prevents this.
I can't find an exact figure but around 42,000 Taliban and Allied fighters died. so for arguments sake call that 2,000 a year for 20 years.
Harry was in Afghanistan for 30 weeks of which 20 weeks were in front line duties.
20 weeks is 40% of a year so whilst he was there 800 enemy combatants would have been killed.
so his claim of killing 25 Taliban means he killed about 3% of all the enemy that died during his tours, that's more akin to Rambo than a normal person, especially if you also take into account that the UK was about 10% of total troops.
Sorry but i Smell Bovine Excrement
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Post by moonraker on Jan 6, 2023 14:13:21 GMT
Meghan's personality (as revealed by people who worked for her) may have contributed to the current unhappiness, but I still deprecate the comments about her made by Clarkson. Lots more on the Radio Four's lunchtime news about the saga. Unlike with the morning news, I didn't turn it off, in the hope (unfounded) that they might quickly move on to something important.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 6, 2023 14:29:13 GMT
I can't find an exact figure but around 42,000 Taliban and Allied fighters died. so for arguments sake call that 2,000 a year for 20 years. Harry was in Afghanistan for 30 weeks of which 20 weeks were in front line duties. 20 weeks is 40% of a year so whilst he was there 800 enemy combatants would have been killed. so his claim of killing 25 Taliban means he killed about 3% of all the enemy that died during his tours, that's more akin to Rambo than a normal person, especially if you also take into account that the UK was about 10% of total troops. Sorry but i Smell Bovine Excrement TBF, I can see that somebody flying a scary-bristly-copter would be far more likely to have bopped a few on the heads than somebody working in the kitchens or servicing trucks - or even doing door-to-door "hearts-and-minds" foot patrols. I was rather darkly amused at the Taliban's official response read out on the lunchtime radio news. They were reminding him that the dead were not just "chess pieces", but were real people with families etc, and all humans deserved dignity and respect. A cynic may think that the Taliban's view could probably be more fairly described as "all humans (so long as they have a willy and pray in the approved manner)"... Anyway, as far as H&M go, it's all so utterly predictable. Yes, he wants out of the public eye. But what, then, will he do to earn (substantial amounts of) money? Her going back to acting is obviously beneath their royal dignity, and it's not like he has any marketable skillset. So they want the public eye but on their terms... Yes, I'm sure she was on the receiving end of entrenched racism. Hell, he apparently admits that's how he was brought up. Yes, I'm sure that a Hollywood B-list actress is a rather demanding human being to deal with, even before the entitlement arising from the royalty. But, really... you ain't helpin' your own cause here... Shut the unprintable up before you REALLY do yourself some damage. He could do worse than look at how Eddy or Anne have managed their status as online-backups. Maybe less so Mags. Definitely not Andy.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 6, 2023 15:09:49 GMT
I have no real affiliation to the Royal Family. I'm less Republican than I used to be, but can't call myself a royalist. But on balance I think that having a long term constitutional monarch may be preferable to having a President as head of state, vying with the PM. I'm sure were it not for that that BoJo would be standing for the next available UK Presidential slot, and that itself is enough to make me think twice. I guess only time will tell whether that holds sufficiently true with Charles as it almost certainly was with QEII.
Anyway, back to Harry, if we must. What a bore and what a mess. And as soon as I read yesterday (or was it first thing this morning) about him talking about how many taliban chess pieces he'd taken off the board I figuratively held my head in my hands and wondered about the size of the target he'd put on his back. Clearly Harry without the help of royal advisors is not safe to be let in front of journalists/ghost writers etc.
That said, I also had another thought. That it is possible his behaviours are showing elements of him suffering with some problematic mental health problems. Losing your mother in such circumstances at that age; possibly/probably part blaming your father for her predicaments; being brought up in the royal bubble (in all honesty, who would really want that), under inspection from the same press that you also no doubt part blame for your mother's death.
I really dislike what he is doing, but there is a part of me that has - subject to knowing otherwise - some sympathy with him.
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Post by agent69 on Jan 6, 2023 15:48:16 GMT
I have no real affiliation to the Royal Family. I'm less Republican than I used to be, but can't call myself a royalist. But on balance I think that having a long term constitutional monarch may be preferable to having a President as head of state, vying with the PM. I'm sure were it not for that that BoJo would be standing for the next available UK Presidential slot, and that itself is enough to make me think twice. I guess only time will tell whether that holds sufficiently true with Charles as it almost certainly was with QEII. Anyway, back to Harry, if we must. What a bore and what a mess. And as soon as I read yesterday (or was it first thing this morning) about him talking about how many taliban chess pieces he'd taken off the board I figuratively held my head in my hands and wondered about the size of the target he'd put on his back. Clearly Harry without the help of royal advisors is not safe to be let in front of journalists/ghost writers etc. That said, I also had another thought. That it is possible his behaviours are showing elements of him suffering with some problematic mental health problems. Losing your mother in such circumstances at that age; possibly/probably part blaming your father for her predicaments; being brought up in the royal bubble (in all honesty, who would really want that), under inspection from the same press that you also no doubt part blame for your mother's death. I really dislike what he is doing, but there is a part of me that has - subject to knowing otherwise - some sympathy with him. Kind of runs in the family
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 15:50:41 GMT
Harry was always called Bungalow (nothing upstairs) and given his parents Diana ( I knew her brother who is pretty stupid) and Hewitt it would be amazing if he is even of average intelligence
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Post by moonraker on Jan 6, 2023 16:13:25 GMT
... And as soon as I read yesterday (or was it first thing this morning) about him talking about how many taliban chess pieces he'd taken off the board I figuratively held my head in my hands and wondered about the size of the target he'd put on his back. Clearly Harry without the help of royal advisors is not safe to be let in front of journalists/ghost writers etc... Isn't one of his ongoing issues the withdrawal of royal protection officers when he opted out of royal life?
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Post by Steerpike on Jan 6, 2023 16:23:34 GMT
"He’s a big mouth loser who has been trying to get attention… Do not believe whatever losers tell you. I see news about him a lot on my Facebook feed and really think he’s gone mad and needs a doctor immediately."
– Taliban commander Molavi Agha Gol on Prince Harry
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Post by mogish on Jan 6, 2023 16:43:06 GMT
Once the money for netflix and the book runs out, maybe megan will aswell. Leaving little Harry all alone, cast out from everything. Hero to zero.
Shame. He did some good work with the help for heroes stuff.
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Post by scooter on Jan 6, 2023 16:57:16 GMT
I have no real affiliation to the Royal Family. I'm less Republican than I used to be, but can't call myself a royalist. But on balance I think that having a long term constitutional monarch may be preferable to having a President as head of state, vying with the PM. I'm sure were it not for that that BoJo would be standing for the next available UK Presidential slot, and that itself is enough to make me think twice. I guess only time will tell whether that holds sufficiently true with Charles as it almost certainly was with QEII. Anyway, back to Harry, if we must. What a bore and what a mess. And as soon as I read yesterday (or was it first thing this morning) about him talking about how many taliban chess pieces he'd taken off the board I figuratively held my head in my hands and wondered about the size of the target he'd put on his back. Clearly Harry without the help of royal advisors is not safe to be let in front of journalists/ghost writers etc. That said, I also had another thought. That it is possible his behaviours are showing elements of him suffering with some problematic mental health problems. Losing your mother in such circumstances at that age; possibly/probably part blaming your father for her predicaments; being brought up in the royal bubble (in all honesty, who would really want that), under inspection from the same press that you also no doubt part blame for your mother's death. I really dislike what he is doing, but there is a part of me that has - subject to knowing otherwise - some sympathy with him. Kind of runs in the family I am sick to death of H&M & would really like the main news programs to drop all the coverage, but I agree about his mental health. From one controlling environment to another. If the boot was on the other foot, we would be talking coercive control. I don't even hate her, but she sees this as some sort of adventure, and when she has got all she can the next step will be divorce and custody battles and i bet she has all sorts of footage on her phone that make him look bad and her look like a victim. They will make Johnny Depp and Amber Heard look like best mates.
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but also, crucially, b) airing your dirty laundry in public is pretty crass.
