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Post by keitha on May 22, 2023 16:36:41 GMT
WHY HASNT SHE BEEN ARRESTED YET...  ...  perhaps because they need enough evidence to prove beyond any doubt she was involved and that her and her Hubby have been treating the SNP as their own private piggy bank for years. the whole legal system is dodgy up there www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-65608795 normally a warrant is approved within 24 hours
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Post by mogish on May 22, 2023 20:22:14 GMT
WHY HASNT SHE BEEN ARRESTED YET... ... perhaps because they need enough evidence to prove beyond any doubt she was involved and that her and her Hubby have been treating the SNP as their own private piggy bank for years. the whole legal system is dodgy up there www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-65608795 normally a warrant is approved within 24 hours I wouldn't quite go that far keitha but I know what you mean. Sturgeon and her cronies party thought they were untouchable. They still do. Would be interesting if an independance vote was called now. I think they may be surprised by the outcome.
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Post by agent69 on Jun 11, 2023 14:04:06 GMT
WHY HASNT SHE BEEN ARRESTED YET... ... Former First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested in connection with the ongoing investigation into the funding and finances of the SNP.
Police confirmed a 52-year-old woman was taken into custody as a suspect and is being questioned by detectives.
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Post by daveb on Jun 11, 2023 17:59:39 GMT
And now she's released without charge. I'm afraid countries that keep voting for the same party discover that party gets increasingly mad and crooked. Both the SNP and the Tories need a wee while in opposition to clean the stables.
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Post by ozboy on Jun 12, 2023 11:00:29 GMT
And now she's released without charge. I'm afraid countries that keep voting for the same party discover that party gets increasingly mad and crooked. Both the SNP and the Tories need a wee while in opposition to clean the stables.
Is the Scotish system different, it seems so? AFAIK if you get arrested in the rest of the UK it is because you will be formally charged, I understood there has to be a "Charge" to be arrested?. To be "arrested" then released without being charged makes no sense to me, in this scenario elsewhere in the UK you are "called in for questioning under caution" or somesuch? I'm sure there are those on here who can explain - adrianc?
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Post by adrianc on Jun 12, 2023 11:22:31 GMT
I'm far from an expert on it, but AIUI she (and the others) are released pending further investigation. Charges haven't been ruled out yet - but they can't be held in custody indefinitely. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7469/As ever, Scottish law may differ in detail. |
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Post by keitha on Jun 12, 2023 11:51:21 GMT
my understanding is if they interview you without you being under arrest, then you can get up and leave. Where as under arrest they can prevent you leaving.
ditto being released to a future date, they can choose at that point to press charges, or say "thanks you are free to go"
It is possible the police are being cautious, and will be taking advice from the CPS on prosecution.
I'm hoping they find evidence of collusion in the Salmond case and she gets taken to court for that as well as defrauding SNP supporting suckers.
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Post by adrianc on Jun 12, 2023 12:30:33 GMT
It is possible the police are being cautious, and will be taking advice from the CPS on prosecution. That's integral anyway - the Police can't charge without CPS say-so. But in Scotland, it's the Procurator Fiscal.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jun 12, 2023 13:22:20 GMT
And now she's released without charge. I'm afraid countries that keep voting for the same party discover that party gets increasingly mad and crooked. Both the SNP and the Tories need a wee while in opposition to clean the stables.
Is the Scotish system different, it seems so? AFAIK if you get arrested in the rest of the UK it is because you will be formally charged, I understood there has to be a "Charge" to be arrested?.To be "arrested" then released without being charged makes no sense to me, in this scenario elsewhere in the UK you are "called in for questioning under caution" or somesuch? I'm sure there are those on here who can explain - adrianc? Not correct. You are typically arrested on suspicion of being involved in an offence. This allows you to be detained for questioning. It is not uncommon to be released without charge after initial arrest. There are of course time limits on how long you can be detained without charge (24 hours is what springs to mind) - unless granted an extension by the judiciary - and the interview after arrest is likely to open up particular avenues for further investigation/evidence gathering which might later lead to a CPS decision to charge. [I'm talking UK ex. Scotland]
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 12, 2023 18:32:59 GMT
In Scottish law can be arrested, released without charge, under conditions, for 28 days pending enquiries & later re-arrested.
In England can be arrested then released on police bail without charge pending further enquiries
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Post by bracknellboy on Jun 12, 2023 21:14:37 GMT
In Scottish law can be arrested, released without charge, under conditions, for 28 days pending enquiries & later re-arrested.
In England can be arrested then released on police bail without charge pending further enquiriesAIUI.... in England you can also be "Released Under Investigation" (and indeed this would now be the default (or "presumption"). Released on Police Bail means you have an obligation to return on a specified bail date (specified at the time of release). "Released Under Investigation" carries no such obligation. I would assume that you can also be "de-arrested", as in released and no longer part of an investigation (though I would imagine that is quite rare - a case of misidentification for example - and instead would likely occur at a date sometime after release.
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Post by martin44 on Jun 16, 2023 19:47:38 GMT
funnily enough... ive not heard a dicky bird from the sturgeon in support of her husband.. i wonder if she would be so sly as to ..... Naaah.... no way.
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Post by keitha on Jun 30, 2023 13:22:06 GMT
Auditors same some records missing www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66065164err not sure I could get away with telling HMRC, this is an estimate of my income and out goings from my business cos I've lost some records. I'm becoming more convinced the SNP accounts must resemble those of some P2P companies, and for that matter the figures submitted by some borrowers and lets be blunt here the SNP's finances must be simpler than those of the Scottish Government, so how can we be convinced of anything the SNP say with regard to the countries finances |
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Post by agent69 on Jun 30, 2023 14:55:07 GMT
Auditors same some records missing www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66065164err not sure I could get away with telling HMRC, this is an estimate of my income and out goings from my business cos I've lost some records. I'm becoming more convinced the SNP accounts must resemble those of some P2P companies, and for that matter the figures submitted by some borrowers and lets be blunt here the SNP's finances must be simpler than those of the Scottish Government, so how can we be convinced of anything the SNP say with regard to the countries finances From a party that promised greater openness following the police investigations, we now get ' First Minister Humza Yousaf, the SNP leader, declined to say how much money was involved in the missing documents. '
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Post by adrianc on Jun 30, 2023 22:15:28 GMT
Auditors same some records missing www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66065164err not sure I could get away with telling HMRC, this is an estimate of my income and out goings from my business cos I've lost some records. I'm becoming more convinced the SNP accounts must resemble those of some P2P companies, and for that matter the figures submitted by some borrowers and lets be blunt here the SNP's finances must be simpler than those of the Scottish Government, so how can we be convinced of anything the SNP say with regard to the countries finances From a party that promised greater openness following the police investigations, we now get ' First Minister Humza Yousaf, the SNP leader, declined to say how much money was involved in the missing documents. ' Perhaps he doesn't actually know because... the documents are missing?
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