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Post by keitha on Dec 5, 2023 11:21:23 GMT
TONIGHT is a GO 17:30 to 18:30 test session so £2.25 data is on this page www.nationalgrideso.com/data-portal/demand-flexibility-service so you could check it for updates before suppliers publish requirements 2nd file down contains the list of wining suppliers and the bid. Octopus take 25% for admin so 3000 is £3 kWh or £2.25 after the deduction |
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Post by michaelc on Dec 5, 2023 14:33:25 GMT
Mine still says "Calculating" for the last two sessions (oldest is 29 Nov). That normal ?
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Post by archie on Dec 5, 2023 14:46:52 GMT
Mine still says "Calculating" for the last two sessions (oldest is 29 Nov). That normal ? Yes
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Post by keitha on Dec 5, 2023 15:03:59 GMT
Mine still says "Calculating" for the last two sessions (oldest is 29 Nov). That normal ? yes, it quite often takes 10 days or so, Hearing from other battery owners that they are getting the export during saver sessions paid at normal rate plus then getting the saver session rates. For me that's a good bonus as on flux 4-7 export pays just over 27P kWh. I suppose the code to deduct normal payments for export during saving sessions, and if you are opted in, and if the export is more than your 10 day average would be quite fiddly to implement. theres an unofficial calculator here savingsessions.streamlit.app/
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Post by captainconfident on Dec 5, 2023 15:29:32 GMT
I haven't read this thread before. Well done to all of you taking part in peak demand clipping, it's a way of limiting fossil fuel demand, esp. in this weather. I hope you do better than I have with Octopus Renewables Infrastructure Trust (ORIT) which has reliably reduced the value of my investment year on year for 4 years.
No such innovative schemes here in Belgium, but all the providers here are owners of French nuke stations as Belgium taps into that grid and the peak load is possible not as high as in the UK. Goodluck with your timings tonight.
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Post by overthehill on Dec 5, 2023 15:58:14 GMT
I haven't read this thread before. Well done to all of you taking part in peak demand clipping, it's a way of limiting fossil fuel demand, esp. in this weather. I hope you do better than I have with Octopus Renewables Infrastructure Trust (ORIT) which has reliably reduced the value of my investment year on year for 4 years. No such innovative schemes here in Belgium, but all the providers here are owners of French nuke stations as Belgium taps into that grid and the peak load is possible not as high as in the UK. Goodluck with your timings tonight.
Their funds aren't any better, especially this one which I'll be exiting if it ever recovers.
FP Octopus UK Micro Cap Growth (P)
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Post by michaelc on Dec 5, 2023 16:32:41 GMT
I haven't read this thread before. Well done to all of you taking part in peak demand clipping, it's a way of limiting fossil fuel demand, esp. in this weather. I hope you do better than I have with Octopus Renewables Infrastructure Trust (ORIT) which has reliably reduced the value of my investment year on year for 4 years. No such innovative schemes here in Belgium, but all the providers here are owners of French nuke stations as Belgium taps into that grid and the peak load is possible not as high as in the UK. Goodluck with your timings tonight. Ahem....and you can be quite sure of my motives for taking part....
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Post by adrianc on Dec 5, 2023 17:02:24 GMT
I hope you do better than I have with Octopus Renewables Infrastructure Trust (ORIT) which has reliably reduced the value of my investment year on year for 4 years. Not directly Octopus, but I've had similarly abysmal performance from L&G Clean Energy ETF (RENG) within II. -24% over two years... You'd think that recent world events, and the effects on fossil supply, would have given clean energy suppliers a leg up, wouldn't you? Apparently the opposite. Seems the markets prefer short-term cashing-in over long-term stability. I'll never understand the markets.
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Post by michaelc on Dec 5, 2023 17:07:25 GMT
I hope you do better than I have with Octopus Renewables Infrastructure Trust (ORIT) which has reliably reduced the value of my investment year on year for 4 years. Not directly Octopus, but I've had similarly abysmal performance from L&G Clean Energy ETF (RENG) within II. -24% over two years... You'd think that recent world events, and the effects on fossil supply, would have given clean energy suppliers a leg up, wouldn't you? Apparently the opposite. Seems the markets prefer short-term cashing-in over long-term stability. I'll never understand the markets. Doesn't it depend ultimately what happens regarding things like electric cars and heat pumps? The former I think many folk are sceptical about longevity and for both (talking about the UK for now) do we have enough supply (power stations) and enough transmission capacity? I think not?
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Post by adrianc on Dec 5, 2023 17:14:31 GMT
Not directly Octopus, but I've had similarly abysmal performance from L&G Clean Energy ETF (RENG) within II. -24% over two years... You'd think that recent world events, and the effects on fossil supply, would have given clean energy suppliers a leg up, wouldn't you? Apparently the opposite. Seems the markets prefer short-term cashing-in over long-term stability. I'll never understand the markets. Doesn't it depend ultimately what happens regarding things like electric cars and heat pumps? The former I think many folk are sceptical about longevity and for both (talking about the UK for now) do we have enough supply (power stations) and enough transmission capacity? I think not? Lots of social media doom and gloom, for sure, but the grown-ups know the luddites don't really matter. The real world is proving that it's all just fine. There's enough 10yo Leafs and Zoes and Model Ss to demonstrate no inherent battery longevity issue - remember, the average car on UK roads is 8yo, and the average age of scrapping is 13yo - while modern IC engines are having more than enough problems of their own with wet cambelts and adblue and particulate filters and high specific output downsized turbos. The national grid think there's no issue with transmission supply and capacity - remember that more energy efficient appliances mean we're already way down on typical consumption from a decade or so ago. Industrial/commercial/retail malaise is also "helping" with that side of consumption...
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Post by michaelc on Dec 5, 2023 17:24:50 GMT
Doesn't it depend ultimately what happens regarding things like electric cars and heat pumps? The former I think many folk are sceptical about longevity and for both (talking about the UK for now) do we have enough supply (power stations) and enough transmission capacity? I think not? Lots of social media doom and gloom, for sure, but the grown-ups know the luddites don't really matter. The real world is proving that it's all just fine. There's enough 10yo Leafs and Zoes and Model Ss to demonstrate no inherent battery longevity issue - remember, the average car on UK roads is 8yo, and the average age of scrapping is 13yo - while modern IC engines are having more than enough problems of their own with wet cambelts and adblue and particulate filters and high specific output downsized turbos. The national grid think there's no issue with transmission supply and capacity - remember that more energy efficient appliances mean we're already way down on typical consumption from a decade or so ago. Industrial/commercial/retail malaise is also "helping" with that side of consumption...Surely even you can't argue that? More power stations (nuclear?) would need to be built. And what energy efficient appliances are going to come our way apart from ones that replace gas with electricity? We clearly need more sparks - I'm amazed you are saying otherwise?
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Post by benaj on Dec 5, 2023 17:28:05 GMT
😅 I have just realised I don’t have enough renewable investment. The closest thing I have is the NSandI green bonds 5.7% for three years, not sure where they invest for green projects.
My adventure with Jupiter Ecology came with 5% loss. The closest thing I have on energy is VUSA, holds 1.31 % exxon mobil.
NG. isn’t too bad if you grab some 8 weeks ago.
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Post by adrianc on Dec 5, 2023 17:45:20 GMT
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Post by jonno on Dec 5, 2023 18:01:46 GMT
Doesn't it depend ultimately what happens regarding things like electric cars and heat pumps? The former I think many folk are sceptical about longevity and for both (talking about the UK for now) do we have enough supply (power stations) and enough transmission capacity? I think not? Lots of social media doom and gloom, for sure, but the grown-ups know the luddites don't really matter. The real world is proving that it's all just fine. There's enough 10yo Leafs and Zoes and Model Ss to demonstrate no inherent battery longevity issue - remember, the average car on UK roads is 8yo, and the average age of scrapping is 13yo - while modern IC engines are having more than enough problems of their own with wet cambelts and adblue and particulate filters and high specific output downsized turbos. The national grid think there's no issue with transmission supply and capacity - remember that more energy efficient appliances mean we're already way down on typical consumption from a decade or so ago. Industrial/commercial/retail malaise is also "helping" with that side of consumption... Clearly not a lot of "grown ups" at Sixt (one of the largest car hire companies). They have announced that they will no longer be using Teslas due to horrendous residuals.
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Post by jonno on Dec 5, 2023 18:02:44 GMT
TONIGHT is a GO 17:30 to 18:30 test session so £2.25 data is on this page www.nationalgrideso.com/data-portal/demand-flexibility-service so you could check it for updates before suppliers publish requirements 2nd file down contains the list of wining suppliers and the bid. Octopus take 25% for admin so 3000 is £3 kWh or £2.25 after the deduction EDF paying their usual £3.00 
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