What annoyed you (in the news) today?

Lunchtime yesterday, it was "some".

p2pindependentforum.com/post/492009

(At that point, Mr Angry's conspiracy was that MSM wasn't telling us the airbase had been hit. Except they were. Plus ca change.)

Five out of 320. 1.5%.

Or, to turn that around, 98.5% got downed. The only difference in 24hrs is that we have a number to the "some" (and five definitely qualifies), and we have some detail for the "minor infrastructure damage". No satellite or whatever pics saying anything to contradict - you'd think they would by now... 

It's the old adage - the attack only needs to be lucky once, the defence needs to be lucky every time.

I am just a member of the general public trying to work out what is going on in the world using common sense - if that makes me a conspiracy theorist so be it. Ever since the WMD lie was used to justify the invasion of Iraq and the killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians I have been very sceptical about anything the government and MSM tells me. Some people seem to find anyone who disagrees with the mainstream narrative offensive and heretical, but I take the view that it is important to point out the lies and hypocrisy of our ruling elite.

And what of vaccines? Perhaps you've scored an own goal there? There are plenty of people who have no problem at all with vaccination generally and certainly don't buy all the Gates nonsense and yet they have misgivings about the Covid vaccine. The label "anti-vax" which hereto had rightly been assigned to a loony fringe was being used by mainstream to shut down any debate. That group of particular vaccines (the covid vaccine) was necessarily produced very quickly and it was right and proper that questions were asked without being shut down by accusations of "anti vax".

Perhaps Sir missed the comma between the second and third items in that short list of five items?

This isn't about "questions being asked", since any legitimate questions about the Covid vaccs were, btw, answered very thoroughly, very quickly to the complete satisfaction of anybody with a modicum of scientific literacy. Those remaining in denial are simply "doing their own research" down various rabbit holes of lies, misrepresentations, and general cluelessness.

But while we're talking about 'vid, remember Andrew Bridgen MP? Was he "right and proper" and just "asking questions" when he raised the work of discredited quack Aseem Malhotra and referred to Covid vaccinations as "the worst crime against humanity since the holocaust"? Because that descended very rapidly into him joining Laurence Fox's party, in case you'd forgotten. Oh, and more recently, he's suggested "capital punishment" as an appropriate response to those involved in the vaccinations. He also thinks Covid was developed in US biological warfare labs, btw.

No, I was meaning wider. The whole anti-vax stupidity started with the Wakefield MMR guff, which has directly led to a rise in childhood measles through the loss of herd immunity - not just in the UK, but across most of the developed world.

It's all tied in with the pathetic Tate-etc toxic masculinity stupidity.
healthfeedback.org/claimreview/andrew-tate-peddles-debunked-claim-covid-19-vaccines-experimental-poison-piers-morgan-interview/
(It's quite something with Piers Morgan is the intelligent, rational grown-up in the room, isn't it?)

Anti-vaxxers are also all tied up with the mass-shooting deniers, harrassing the families of the dead with the accusations that they're "crisis actors".
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/03/covid-vaccine-misinformation-social-media-harassment/673537/
It's not even new since 'vid...
2019, pre-'vid - edition.cnn.com/2019/03/19/health/anti-vax-harassment-eprise/index.html

This sort of batshittery rarely flies alone.

Yes I was going to post about that a few months ago when he had stood up in parliament and spouted that tosh, but decided I couldn't be a***d. The reason I was going to post it was because back at the time he made his "worst crime against humanity since the holocaust" there were some who were adamant he was being terribly badly treated and he didn't actually mean what he was being interpreted as meaning.

Roll on a while and Andrew Bellend is using his parliamentary privilege to say that those involved in ensuring what is arguably the greatest ever success in public health management - when speed, impact and difficulty are taken into account - should be executed for their actions. But of course the words he used before were being terribly misrepresented, and didn't reflect his real feelings on the matter: all a left wing liberal conspiracy to undermine the great man, apparently because he was in favour of Brexit. 

A government and mainstream media that will take a country into war based on a total pack of lies is to be treated with extreme suspicion in my opinion. I do not assume everything the government or main stream media in this country tells me is false, but I do not assume it is true either.  Thankfully telling lies on a large scale is very difficult to do (if not impossible) and it is often easy to see through the deceptions with common sense due to the obvious inconsistencies in what they say. The only reason they seem to get away with it is because most of the population does not question the people in authority and blindly accept whatever they are told *.


* - the way anyone who questions the official narrative is immediately labelled a conspiracy nut or an agent of a foreign power is a convenient way for the ruling elite to dismiss people questioning the manipulation and lies they are involved in.

Yes, I've been accused on two separate occasions as being exactly that without any hint of irony or jest.

I do think people question more than you give credit for but those on this forum are more likely to trust the mainstream sources due to age.