elgerod
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Post by elgerod on Nov 18, 2015 18:50:54 GMT
How LOUD can you scream?
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ramblin rose
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Post by ramblin rose on Nov 18, 2015 18:55:24 GMT
Launch with no warning, bring a new deal the same day (which seems to have jumped through the stages very quickly) they must be really NUTS! Well I used to like SS and have a decent chunk of money on their site. Have tried six times to buy a loan part without success.
WELL I HATE THE NEW SITE
LAUNCHING A DEAL ON THE SAME DAY AS THE NEW SITE IS JUST PLAIN NUTS
WELL FC IS BROKEN AND NOW IT FEELS LIKE SS IS AS WELL
REALLY REALLY REALLY P----D OFF !
AND IF I GET ANYMORE E MAILS TO SAY I HAVE NOT BOUGHT MY PART OR ON FACT I HAVE BOUGHT £0.00 I SWEAR I WILL SCREAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Much as it is unwise of me to disagree with someone who is so annoyed they need to subject us all to shouty capitals, I am going to share that I was just at that moment thinking what a good idea it was to launch a smallish loan so that most of the site functionality would get tested. It's successfully brought out a few errors, which they can now fix. Got to agree emails to tell you that you didn't get to buy anything have to be the pits, but the only reason you'd have been able to buy those parts on the old site was because it was fatally flawed and allowed you to buy stuff that somebody else had in reality beaten you to. (Runs away to hide........). Edit: (pops head out briefly) I don't like the new site either, but it has worked really well for me as a person who is using a PC, only wanted to sell loans to fund the new allocation, and wasn't trying to buy on SM.
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Post by jamesc on Nov 18, 2015 19:41:44 GMT
Fair enough Rose, but wait till you try and buy something, 12 unsuccessful attempts so far, the old site might have had its problems the overdrawn balances used to work their way through. I wonder if I will ever be able to buy in the SM again !
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Post by treeman on Nov 18, 2015 19:58:33 GMT
60K of PBL065 up for grabs now - was 80k a couple of mins ago.
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ramblin rose
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Post by ramblin rose on Nov 18, 2015 19:58:44 GMT
Fair enough Rose, but wait till you try and buy something, 12 unsuccessful attempts so far, the old site might have had its problems the overdrawn balances used to work their way through. I wonder if I will ever be able to buy in the SM again ! I know, and I do sympathise. This would have been particularly bad as it was a small loan, and relatively little would have been needed to be sold to cover. Also, coming after a period of famine, more people were likely to be wanting to add the funds to cover rather than sell. I would imagine once the sausage machine gets going again, and there are larger loans to cover, more will go up for sale and it will become easier. Not likely I'll be trying to purchase much if anything on SM - I'm happy to keep the diversification going by participating in new loans on a regular basis - and I would be even if I had new money to go in. I'm a patient sort on the whole.
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Post by nsinvestor on Nov 18, 2015 20:05:28 GMT
60K of PBL065 up for grabs now - was 80k a couple of mins ago. I didn't notice whether the 60k built through time. I suspect not, which means either an investor with deep pockets (they would have pre-funded around £180k to get this chunk) or possibly SS keeping some of the loan back and then feeding into the SM to open it up to investors who didn't sort out their pre-funding???
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Post by nsinvestor on Nov 18, 2015 20:08:28 GMT
just seen the original post and was 80k not 60k. that's an enormous amount of a new loan to be sold down by investors on the same day when pre funding allocation was around the 31% mark. savingstream - were you holding back to ensure an active SM? If so, are you likely to do the same in the future?
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Post by treeman on Nov 18, 2015 20:09:38 GMT
All gone! I would guess it was 'spare' being offloaded. No need for SS to keep any given the obvious demand and more in the pipe.
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 18, 2015 20:59:47 GMT
I am totally confused now! If there were so many pre-bids that allocation was necessary, where could the £60-80k have come from? It has been suggested that someone could have put in a very large pre-bid -- maybe £200k? -- and then released their excess allocation, but I thought SS had abandoned their initial plans to prorate all pre-bids by the same percentage and had decided instead to allocate everyone the same amount (up to the level of their pre-bid, of course) so as to stop investors from inflating their pre-bids in an effort to obtain what they really wanted despite allocation. savingstream: Can you please tell us how the loan parts were allocated to the various pre-bids made? It also would be helpful to know where the £60-80k released later came from, but I'm most concerned about understanding the allocation process. In the meantime, while waiting for info from SS, would others please indicate how their allocation compared to their pre-bid? Did everyone get the same percentage? Or did everyone get the same amount?
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Post by dodgeydave on Nov 18, 2015 21:05:08 GMT
I recieved 31% of my pre bid
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Post by sam i am on Nov 18, 2015 21:10:23 GMT
I am totally confused now! If there were so many pre-bids that allocation was necessary, where could the £60-80k have come from? It has been suggested that someone could have put in a very large pre-bid -- maybe £200k? -- and then released their excess allocation, but I thought SS had abandoned their initial plans to prorate all pre-bids by the same percentage and had decided instead to allocate everyone the same amount (up to the level of their pre-bid, of course) so as to stop investors from inflating their pre-bids in an effort to obtain what they really wanted despite allocation. savingstream: Can you please tell us how the loan parts were allocated to the various pre-bids made? It also would be helpful to know where the £60-80k released later came from, but I'm most concerned about understanding the allocation process. In the meantime, while waiting for info from SS, would others please indicate how their allocation compared to their pre-bid? Did everyone get the same percentage? Or did everyone get the same amount? It's my understanding that SS still uses the pro-rating method. With loans below £500k they will limit the maximum bid to £20k. (I note that the current pipeline loan below this amount allows a higher bid to be set, but maybe they will cap it during the allocation process).
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Post by solicitorious on Nov 18, 2015 21:10:27 GMT
31.66%
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Post by star dust on Nov 18, 2015 21:15:41 GMT
I am totally confused now! If there were so many pre-bids that allocation was necessary, where could the £60-80k have come from? It has been suggested that someone could have put in a very large pre-bid -- maybe £200k? -- and then released their excess allocation, but I thought SS had abandoned their initial plans to prorate all pre-bids by the same percentage and had decided instead to allocate everyone the same amount (up to the level of their pre-bid, of course) so as to stop investors from inflating their pre-bids in an effort to obtain what they really wanted despite allocation. savingstream: Can you please tell us how the loan parts were allocated to the various pre-bids made? It also would be helpful to know where the £60-80k released later came from, but I'm most concerned about understanding the allocation process. In the meantime, while waiting for info from SS, would others please indicate how their allocation compared to their pre-bid? Did everyone get the same percentage? Or did everyone get the same amount? For an over funded loan everyone gets the same % of their pre-bid - around 31% in this case. If undersubscribed everyone gets 100%. If the loan is less than £500k and oversubscribed pre-fund bids are restricted to receive a maximum of £20k, then and allocated proportionally for everyone bidding less. You can pre-fund up to £250k. There is no conspiracy here I think someone had a very big pre-bid and sold some off. HTH. In Edit - I think I may not have expressed that clearly so amended.
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Post by SteveT on Nov 18, 2015 21:18:14 GMT
Perhaps SS felt it prudent with this one to hold back a chunk before allocating the rest pro-rata, in case the new website hit a glitch and some lenders missed out on their allocation for some reason. Either that or the "huge pre-funding request" scenario, but that sounds unlikely to me.
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 18, 2015 21:40:02 GMT
Thanks for all the input and explanations. I think I was confusing SS with another platform I use that started out by saying they'd prorate all pre-bids proportionally and then changed their procedure.
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