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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 6, 2016 14:57:23 GMT
OK, so I am not exactly on the bleeding edge here, but I'm considering it (slightly prompted by the Franco-Chinese Nuclear fiasco I guess) .. anyone here who has actually invested in Solar PV (as well as or instead of P2P) .. if so, were your experiences good or bad, and how do you rate it with hindsight (ignoring the fact that the FIT is 1/3rd what it was a year ago).
So far I've seen about 4 companies, 2 of which went straight on the scrap heap for sending salesmen who thought that a voltage optimiser would save me a fortune (I guess they suspect I have an industrial site out back?). I suspect it is the new 'double-glazing', with half the same salesmen. 8<. I did find one who knew what a volt was.
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Post by tybalt on Aug 6, 2016 16:12:43 GMT
Unless you are totally pigeon free have the panels netted. Local to us, Hereford, did not and had to have the panels removed the wiring cleaned of deposits within one year on installation. Apart from the smell there was considerable fire risk a pigeon droppings were around cables and they were thermally insulating the cables. The cost of the work was over £ 2,000. Friends in London had a similar problem. Even if your supplier will not net have them leave the scaffolding and have somebody else do it.
If you have an electric hot water cylinder then have a
www.121energy.com/marlec-solar-iboost-free-hot-water-from-solar-pv.html?gclid=CjwKEAjwlZa9BRCw7cS66eTxlCkSJAC-ddmw3uGG0y6IzCBgPDXhstV2w6Ba398h1xfjJ9vQ2WIA_BoCXTXw_wcB
or similar price should be much less than quoted if part of an install.
Other than that I believe the figures for savings are understated. We are looking at payback on our two year old system at about 4 years.
Talk to a neighbour who has had the system installed as typically they will be one £ 100 cash back for anybody who signs up as result of their recommendation.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 6, 2016 20:17:38 GMT
Thanks. Between the sparrowhawk, kestrels, and shooting the beggars, the pigeon problem here is negligible. More worried about squirrels and mice, the local owls are just not up to the job.
If you are in / around Hereford, please PM me who was used (I'm only 30 miles from there).
Yes, I am considering the IBoost or similar, until/unless battery storage gets a good bit cheaper (I won't be bleeding edge there either). Batteries are still several £K for 5 or 6 KWHr, and the energy density is fairly scary (OK, so the car's petrol tank is even worse, but those rarely short circuit and self destruct).
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Post by oldnick on Aug 6, 2016 20:32:46 GMT
I'm told that the transformer for each panel needs replacing at +/- 5 year intervals - which the salesmen don't mention?
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Post by martin44 on Aug 6, 2016 20:53:46 GMT
I was invited to buy 10 solar panels for £12000.00 making me a saving of £360.00 per year , i'm 56.. i will leave more arithmetical types to work out how old i will be before i get into any kind of profit.
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Post by ilmoro on Aug 6, 2016 21:21:28 GMT
Thanks. Between the sparrowhawk, kestrels, and shooting the beggars, the pigeon problem here is negligible. More worried about squirrels and mice, the local owls are just not up to the job. If you are in / around Hereford, please PM me who was used (I'm only 30 miles from there). Yes, I am considering the IBoost or similar, until/unless battery storage gets a good bit cheaper (I won't be bleeding edge there either). Batteries are still several £K for 5 or 6 KWHr, and the energy density is fairly scary (OK, so the car's petrol tank is even worse, but those rarely short circuit and self destruct). Its taken me three reads of that to realise that you dont have a murderous vendetta against the homeless. My brain has given up for the day
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 7, 2016 8:07:38 GMT
A decent 4kw system ought cost £6-8k. Yes, the inverter probably needs replacing at 10 years (string inverter .. the individual panel ones should last longer, but if the panels produce AC, there is nowhere to hang battery storage, which is obviously DC).
No, we don't shoot beggars. They are (unlike pigeons) inedible. 8>.
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Post by tybalt on Aug 7, 2016 8:37:03 GMT
Invertors rather than Transformers - We have a ten year warranty on ours and believe the replacement cost to be under £ 1,000. They are also solid state
We paid £ 5,000 for a 16 panel 4 Kilovolt system two year ago. Friends paid about £ 11,000 for a similar system seven years ago and it is still going strong with no decline in performance.
I have PM
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Post by Steerpike on Aug 7, 2016 8:50:10 GMT
I paid £14k for a 4kW system just over 5 years ago.
It generates about 75% of that and has returned about £1,500 a year with no obvious decline in performance.
There is a 7 year warranty on the inverter which can be extended at extra cost to 25 years.
I am happy with the installation and the return.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 12:15:37 GMT
Used EvoEnergy, very professional organisation operating to Quality standards. Quoted well, installed well, unit (touch wood) never been a problem (5 years), they advised that the control unit needs replacing every 10 years and sold us a very cheap extended warranty to cover out to 20 years. If you use them and mention my name... (I am prepared to negotiate) NB FITS goes down, but so does the capital costs, the income is index linked... You'll need scafolding as part of the deal, so get your chimneys painted at same time etc.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 7, 2016 20:02:56 GMT
@bobo .. sadly I read at their site that "Please note that from 1st January 2016 we have suspended our home PV installation service".. no referrals for you then. I guess the FIT cut was likely to blame, unless there were too many customer issues. The Solar PV companies makes mayflies look really durable by comparison .. at least yours is still around, albeit not still installing.
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Post by fp on Aug 7, 2016 20:37:13 GMT
@bobo .. sadly I read at their site that " Please note that from 1st January 2016 we have suspended our home PV installation service".. no referrals for you then. I guess the FIT cut was likely to blame, unless there were too many customer issues. The Solar PV companies makes mayflies look really durable by comparison .. at least yours is still around, albeit not still installing. I think you will find that with many companies in this sector, one near me who I dealt with who had in excess of 600 employees, all were laid off at the beginning of this year. There was suggestion they would start back up in May/June this year, but it hasn't happened.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 7:17:02 GMT
Well the destruction of the Green Deal and an ex-chancellor who does not believe in global warming didn't help. Mrs bobo consults in the environmental engineering/legal field and was not surprised when I told her.
From a short term point of view I have a house with up-to-date insulation (paid by from central gov) and a full set of solar panels earning 13%. In the long term "we're all doomed".
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Post by adrianc on Aug 8, 2016 8:43:14 GMT
Well the destruction of the Green Deal and an ex-chancellor who does not believe in global warming didn't help. And yet the renewable feed-in tariffs only started a month before that ex-chancellor took over, six years ago (and the Renewable Heat Initiative was introduced 18mo in to that tenure). If Osborne had really wanted to squish 'em, that would have been the time. Seems to me that the real reason they've been cut is precisely because the installation costs have fallen so much - the break-even has stayed somewhere around the same, which is the whole point of subsidising developing technologies, isn't it? They should never have been allowed to be seen as a nice little investment for the comfortably-off. Many of the "free install" roof-lease schemes collapsed because the potential customers realised they were a bit of a scam, rather than because of changing legislation.
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Post by jonno on Aug 8, 2016 8:46:58 GMT
I'm just approaching the fourth anniversary of the installation of my 4kw system and I'm happy with performance so far. I have 18 Hyundai poly- panels with an Uno 1 inverter which cost just under £6k and it's surprisingly consistent in it's performance in each of the 4 years, producing income of £700 and reducing my bill by around £250; so I should be in profit in around two more years. It helps if someone is around during the day to utilise/manage high consumption equipment when/if the sun actually appears (My FIT tariff is currently approx. 20p per kw.)
P.S. would probably perform better if I lived further south than the Costa del Merseyside
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