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Post by registerme on Aug 10, 2016 8:04:08 GMT
Oh, and in my opinion probably the only way to encourage folk to reduce their use of environment damaging hydrocarbons is by taxing the user. A perfect example of that being the plastic bag tax. I think I'm right in saying that the country used some five billion (!!) less plastic bags in the year after it was introduced. I wonder how many barrels of oil that requires?
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Post by bracknellboy on Aug 10, 2016 8:06:08 GMT
Oh, and in my opinion probably the only way to encourage folk to reduce their use of environment damaging hydrocarbons is by taxing the user. A perfect example of that being the plastic bag tax. I think I'm right in saying that the country used some five billion (!!) less plastic bags in the year after it was introduced. I wonder how many barrels of oil that requires? but what we haven't been told is what the increase in sales of bin liners was in the same period.....
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Post by registerme on Aug 10, 2016 8:12:38 GMT
That's a fair point. Still, personally speaking, I'm a paragon of virtue . I've used a linen bag given out by my local butcher for the last twelve years, so have never relied on supermarket plastic bags anyway. And I use the bags from the odd occasion I use my local corner shop for "small" bin bags, so my use of regular bin bags has remained flat. EDIT: Oh, and I compost kitchen vegetable waste and have a water but collecting rain run off.
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Post by adrianc on Aug 10, 2016 8:17:57 GMT
A perfect example of that being the plastic bag tax. I think I'm right in saying that the country used some five billion (!!) less plastic bags in the year after it was introduced. I wonder how many barrels of oil that requires? but what we haven't been told is what the increase in sales of bin liners was in the same period..... We're still working our way through the back stock...
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Post by chielamangus on Aug 10, 2016 13:48:41 GMT
Oh, and in my opinion probably the only way to encourage folk to reduce their use of environment damaging hydrocarbons is by taxing the user. The classic ways are taxation, regulation (with effective punishments for transgressors) and education. Cheaper substitutes would be the most effective, if they existed. Subsidising something has an educational role but also creates other problems, such as equity. However, it's all p*****g in the wind now. The world is not ready/not able to limit global emissions, so unless there is a technological fix in the next 25-50 years the climate will probably change in ways we can only guess at. But it will be relished by some. Imagine if the vast plains of northern Russia suddenly become cultivable.
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Post by registerme on Aug 10, 2016 14:08:15 GMT
Imagine if the vast plains of northern Russia suddenly become cultivable. And Canada. Either way though it would require a massive melting of permafrost, which would a) imply a significant increase in global temperature and b) result in an enormous quantity of methane being released into the atmosphere .
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 10, 2016 16:50:42 GMT
but what we haven't been told is what the increase in sales of bin liners was in the same period..... We're still working our way through the back stock... I got caught out by some of the back stock which turned out to be biodegradable ... i.e. the carrier bags destined for waste bin use turned to plastic confetti while waiting their turn (everything degraded EXCEPT the ink printed on them so it was very messy confetti).
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Post by bracknellboy on Aug 10, 2016 17:40:45 GMT
had a similar problem a few years ago when moving house. Clearing out the loft space required less of moving of stuff stored in carrier bags and more of a where's the shovel approach. I realised then that a lot of bags were somewhat more degradeable than i thought.
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Post by adrianc on Aug 10, 2016 18:09:19 GMT
<nods an experienced nod>
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Post by justdabbling on Aug 10, 2016 21:36:36 GMT
OK, so I am not exactly on the bleeding edge here, but I'm considering it (slightly prompted by the Franco-Chinese Nuclear fiasco I guess) .. anyone here who has actually invested in Solar PV (as well as or instead of P2P) .. if so, were your experiences good or bad, and how do you rate it with hindsight (ignoring the fact that the FIT is 1/3rd what it was a year ago). So far I've seen about 4 companies, 2 of which went straight on the scrap heap for sending salesmen who thought that a voltage optimiser would save me a fortune (I guess they suspect I have an industrial site out back?). I suspect it is the new 'double-glazing', with half the same salesmen. 8<. I did find one who knew what a volt was.
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Post by justdabbling on Aug 10, 2016 21:56:20 GMT
I had a 4kw array installed in July 2011 by Your Power Ltd., and it seemed to be a very professional operation. Despite living in rural Gloucestershire and feeding the birds I have had no problems with any birds and I had never heard of netting until I read about it here. We wash the panels once a year but that is the extent of the maintenance required so far. The panels have produced an average of 3700 kWh pa which produces FITs income of about £1900 pa. I have not documented the saving in electricity consumption but the monthly direct debit was halved, after an £800 surplus arose following the installation of the panels. I too use a 100 renewable tariff and have invested some FITs cash in other renewable energy community projects on Ethex, and the EIS and SEIS certificates are beginning to come through on those, however, EIS and SEIS have now been withdrawn from these type of projects. Your Power used some panels from a manufacturer Suncycle, some batches of whose panels were later found to be faulty, and Your Power kept me informed about the situation, and in due course confirmed that my panels were not in the affected batches, which was good after sales service. So it has all been a positive experience so far, the only negative aspect being the service from SSE, with whom I contracted to administer the FITs, and which I have found to be slow and uncommunicative, although they do deal with the payments eventually.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 11, 2016 9:17:19 GMT
Blimey, that makes three of us in agreement . Personally I think they could have a) kick started the industry, b) increased our use of renewables, c) cut taxes / increased spending and d) not given well off people even more money by simply covering every appropriate government / council building in the country with solar pv. The only issue I have with that is that nobody ever got good at anything (except padding the costs) by bidding on government contracts. I don't have a problem with the FIT coming down now the technology is flying, although a 3x cut in one month was probably a bit too steep for some of the industry to cope with.
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Post by Balder on Aug 11, 2016 13:49:25 GMT
I had a 4kw array installed in July 2011 by Your Power Ltd., and it seemed to be a very professional operation. Despite living in rural Gloucestershire and feeding the birds I have had no problems with any birds and I had never heard of netting until I read about it here. We wash the panels once a year but that is the extent of the maintenance required so far. The panels have produced an average of 3700 kWh pa which produces FITs income of about £1900 pa. I have not documented the saving in electricity consumption but the monthly direct debit was halved, after an £800 surplus arose following the installation of the panels. I too use a 100 renewable tariff and have invested some FITs cash in other renewable energy community projects on Ethex, and the EIS and SEIS certificates are beginning to come through on those, however, EIS and SEIS have now been withdrawn from these type of projects. Your Power used some panels from a manufacturer Suncycle, some batches of whose panels were later found to be faulty, and Your Power kept me informed about the situation, and in due course confirmed that my panels were not in the affected batches, which was good after sales service. So it has all been a positive experience so far, the only negative aspect being the service from SSE, with whom I contracted to administer the FITs, and which I have found to be slow and uncommunicative, although they do deal with the payments eventually. 3.9kw system with a SMA inverter fitted in 2012. Live on the North Cornwall Coast. FIT managed via Utility Warehouse very efficient and pay monthly based on my monthly reading provided online. 2013 4578 kw £1874 FIT £366 saving 2014 4787 1912 327 2015 4595 1878 469
We also have a solar hot water system that provides a 300 litre tank at 65C from May to September -If I had to choose with the new FIT rates I'd do this 1st.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 15:17:42 GMT
I under stand a few of the Internet giants started out bidding and winning government contracts like Google and ....
The point was they were more than just installers of bits of silicon. Bolting stuff on a roof is not really offering a USP.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 17:09:26 GMT
I see AC now has a loan arriving that is for a company that has gotten into difficulty after doing the government insulation green deal thing. It advises that 4 of its competitors have gone bust in the last 12 months. One to watch from the sidelines I suspect.
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