ramblin rose
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Post by ramblin rose on Aug 21, 2014 13:49:06 GMT
I don't even have a shadow account (unless they've stopped ignoring my request without telling me ) and I've been asked to settle my supposed shadow bid. I do have a bid on the loan, but the money was taken from my account immediately for that. Maybe AC will start getting the detail of things right sometime before I give up on them entirely..................... who knows?
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Post by smee on Aug 21, 2014 14:03:35 GMT
I don't even have a shadow account (unless they've stopped ignoring my request without telling me ) and I've been asked to settle my supposed shadow bid. I do have a bid on the loan, but the money was taken from my account immediately for that. Maybe AC will start getting the detail of things right sometime before I give up on them entirely..................... who knows? Me too.
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Post by yorkshireman on Aug 21, 2014 14:31:57 GMT
I don't even have a shadow account (unless they've stopped ignoring my request without telling me ) and I've been asked to settle my supposed shadow bid. I do have a bid on the loan, but the money was taken from my account immediately for that. Maybe AC will start getting the detail of things right sometime before I give up on them entirely..................... who knows? Same here.
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Post by andrewholgate on Aug 21, 2014 14:45:38 GMT
Hi
This was an error by Dominic and he informed me as soon as he had done it. You should have an email from me apologising about this.
I'm a little perplexed about comments above as I feel from other feedback we are doing a good job. What other things in the "detail" have we got wrong?
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Post by yorkshireman on Aug 21, 2014 15:24:29 GMT
Hi This was an error by Dominic and he informed me as soon as he had done it. You should have an email from me apologising about this. I'm a little perplexed about comments above as I feel from other feedback we are doing a good job. What other things in the "detail" have we got wrong? A Andrew My comment was simply referring to the shadow bid email nothing else but since you ask, I have recently raised an issue privately which has not been answered although I think that I have now managed to suss out the answer myself.
If you want further info I can email the details as I’m not prepared to discuss the matter on a public forum although as I said above, I have drawn my own conclusions and would prefer to move on.
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Post by andrewholgate on Aug 21, 2014 15:36:22 GMT
Please email me andrew@assetzcapital.co.uk
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ramblin rose
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Post by ramblin rose on Aug 21, 2014 15:41:16 GMT
Hi This was an error by Dominic and he informed me as soon as he had done it. You should have an email from me apologising about this. I'm a little perplexed about comments above as I feel from other feedback we are doing a good job. What other things in the "detail" have we got wrong? A Obviously this one aimed at me . I'm sure on the big things AC are doing a good job. It is just a lot of little things that continue to give me the impression that attention to detail is lax. Such as the fact that monies repaid, cashback etc seem to always need recalculating and amending because it wasn't quite right first time, something got missed off, something got rounded wrong etc, etc. Then there are people who purchased or sold loan units some very considerable time ago who's accounts still haven't been correctly credited the correct amount of interest due to some problem or other, so they are having to keep an eye on it and prod every so often. It all makes it feel that what is paid to me needs always to be checked, because it seems it's so often wrong. Perhaps I expect too much, but I really do think we should be able to expect a financial services company to get numbers right without us having to check the details ourselves. Then, promised updates continually don't appear when it is said they will, without any form of acknowledgement that it is recognised that they haven't. Staff can't 'remember' how they arrived at LTVs, emails get variously ignored or sent out in error. All these things just off the top of my head and all from the past few weeks. I'm sure if I thought about it harder I'd come up with more. Much of the time detail doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but so often it ends up giving you a really huge bite in the fundament when you least expect it if you don't have the habit of paying more attention. My impression, and maybe it's incorrect, is that ACs internal procedures are lacking, because human error (to which we are all prone) is allowed to not only creep in, but to wander round openly with great regularity. There are other p2p platforms that I use which also get things wrong sometimes - it isn't just AC. It's just that with AC there's been a fairly constant dribble of errors since I got involved just a few months ago. None of them have impacted me hugely, to my knowledge, but there's always a background worry that something might do soon. Of course, this is my very personal view, and AC certainly shouldn't worry about what one holier-than-thou individual thinks, but I will none-the-less point out that it is AC who have actively given me this impression - I didn't get involved with the intention of finding it annoying.
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Post by yorkshireman on Aug 21, 2014 15:54:28 GMT
Please email me andrew@assetzcapital.co.uk Will do, but it may be tomorrow.
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alison
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Post by alison on Aug 21, 2014 15:54:42 GMT
I'll add another one.
I haven't really bothered investing much with AC recently but on checking the Q&As on the loans periodically I have been surprised at the number of typos that have had to be corrected on the Credit Reports. These are not just simple spelling mistakes, but material changes relating to figures etc.
I never noticed this in my first year with AC but it certainly has crept in over the past few months.
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Post by bracknellboy on Aug 21, 2014 19:28:38 GMT
.... I'm a little perplexed about comments above as I feel from other feedback we are doing a good job. What other things in the "detail" have we got wrong? A .... Staff can't 'remember' how they arrived at LTVs, emails get variously ignored or sent out in error. ....... My impression, and maybe it's incorrect, is that ACs internal procedures are lacking, because human error (to which we are all prone) is allowed to not only creep in, but to wander round openly with great regularity. There are other p2p platforms that I use which also get things wrong sometimes - it isn't just AC. It's just that with AC there's been a fairly constant dribble of errors since I got involved just a few months ago. .... IMHO: To be fair to AC: ref. human error wadnering around openly.... I can't help but feel that some - not all - of that perception is due to ACs open and frequent engagement with this forum. Its almost inevitable that if they are engaging regularly with the forum, they are likely to fall into the trap - if one considers it a trap - of letting the barriers down a bit and communicating more informally than would otherwise be the case. Which in turn would lead to a tendency to 'hold up hands' more than perhaps a business would normally do. Its in the nature of the beast. FC are frequently making significant errors- based on the postings of others here - but the wall of silence means that comments like "I'd forgotten how...." are never going to be aired by them here. And TC frequently seem to not to want to own up to its errors even within the bounds of its own private forum. Personally, I'd rather give a degree of latitude to AC based on the above. That said, things like the interest calcs does worry me: I've bought quite a bit on the AM, and sold a bit, and if the calcs are wrong as has been suggested multiple times, that is very concerning. I donm't have the time or frankly the inclination to check them: this is an element I really really expect the platforms to get right. And if nothing else, that is probably where FC is pretty robust compared to some others.
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Post by kermie on Aug 21, 2014 19:45:56 GMT
I tend to agree bracknellboy. AC are very open with us here. Highly accessible, and listen to feedback. I'd also like to take a step back and consider how AC behave in the wider context compared to other institutions through which we might invest/save ("the banks", cough...). PPI anyone? Libor rate fixing? Endowment mortages? Granted, the interest calcs etc need to be reliable - there's no denying that. Let's bear in mind, however, the daily media reports of HMRC screwing up millions of tax bills, utility companies over-charging the 80-year old pensioner by thousands, etc, etc. It all needs to be put into context. Even compared to other P2P lenders...I don't know how many email cock-ups I've had from a whole bunch of other P2P lenders. Frankly, if that's as bad as it gets, then let's be thankful. Detail matters, of course - but the bigger picture things matter even more. Just sayin' let's have some perspective.
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Post by batchoy on Aug 21, 2014 19:54:56 GMT
Today's email c**k-up by AC was insignificant compared with Bondora's c**k-p last week, which requested sensitive ID documents to be sent to an email address on a third party's domain and triggered fears that Bondora's systems had been hacked and members were being scammed. See: www.p2pindependentforum.com/post/19159/thread
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j
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Post by j on Aug 21, 2014 20:11:01 GMT
ramblin rose raises a number of valid & current issues. From my perspective, interest rate calculation is an issue. My lifestyle means I can't/don't have time to watch every loan I have & calculate the pennies on a daily basis. I know one in particular that I currently have that had the wrong daily amount added for many a day, yet somehow, come repayment day, it magically corrected itself. It is now adding interest wrongly for this month again! I have also sold, bought, sold & bought again in various loans, some not redeeming till full repayment date (ie not monthly) & I dread to think how right or wrong my final interest was/will be (I was foolish not to make a note of accrued figures when buying/selling). Other issues raised are also slowly becoming a concern & for a company that clearly prides itself on transparency, accuracy & honesty, these problems need to be sorted & their repetition stopped. AC are a good co. I fully believe have their heart in the right place, otherwise you & your staff could have been reticent & not communicated regularly with us on here or bothered asking for feedback. However, as some have said, some of the errors look unprofessional (which I'm sure is the opposite of the impression you want to convey of AC), they are being repeated & certain issues not sorted despite constant promises to the contrary. Rome wasn't built in a day, neither will AC & some leeway will always be forthcoming from members but, only up to a certain point.
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Post by bracknellboy on Aug 21, 2014 20:19:18 GMT
....I can't/don't have time to watch every loan I have & calculate the pennies on a daily basis. was that meant to read pennies or penguins ?
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j
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Post by j on Aug 21, 2014 20:35:13 GMT
....I can't/don't have time to watch every loan I have & calculate the pennies on a daily basis. was that meant to read pennies or penguins ? Given a choice between tending to the little penguins or counting the pennies..........
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