Steerpike
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Post by Steerpike on Nov 9, 2016 8:38:04 GMT
And the winner is [drum roll.....] Vladimir Putin. Next up on the world stage: Marine Le Pen as the next President of France, and Beppe Grillo as President of Italy. (Actually, the latter might come first as they have a habit of getting through elections at a rate of knots). actually, might the bouffant one be some form of genetic combination of these two ? The politics of the first, and the gravitas of the second ? Apologies to all those who view the above outcomes as desirable. Plus ça change...yesterday Vladimir Putin was the most powerful man in the world, today Vladimir Putin is the most powerful man in the world.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 9, 2016 8:44:43 GMT
On the bright side, in office he can't possibly be as bad/mad as he has been on the hustings. Can he ??
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Post by adrianc on Nov 9, 2016 9:05:46 GMT
On the bright side, in office he can't possibly be as bad/mad as he has been on the hustings. Can he ?? If he isn't, there's going to be a hell of a lot of (armed) people feeling betrayed.
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Post by shimself on Nov 9, 2016 9:18:33 GMT
On the bright side, in office he can't possibly be as bad/mad as he has been on the hustings. Can he ?? My Brother's a Texan, he tells me that Trump is misunderstood and is in fact quite a Diplomat and this statement comes from a guy that dismisses 'Gun Controls' as unconstitutional and an affront to Democracy. My Bro' voted for Clinton (only joking), he's a happy guy this morning. Domestically he has a chance and might actually create a half way proper health service (Rooneycare basically, which is more or less what Obama wanted but the mad aunties just opposed because he wanted it), which HRC would never have managed unless she won the Senate and HoReps. He will try to cede Russia their barrier states eg Ukraine (shades of 1984), and probably Syria. Term limits and I think campaign funding restraints might come in, which the dems would also have liked. In our field of interest I suppose the USA will declare bankruptcy in a couple of years, which will be unfortunate, and blame, erm China, and then Armageddon. Might blame the EU instead. bugger. We have friends in Christmas Island.
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Post by dandy on Nov 9, 2016 9:49:22 GMT
Wonder how long before 'Trump Walls Inc' is formed ...  |
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jonno
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Post by jonno on Nov 9, 2016 10:28:11 GMT
Apparently he wants to cement a new relationship with Mexico  |
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Post by locutus on Nov 9, 2016 10:31:23 GMT
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Post by kaya on Nov 9, 2016 10:58:44 GMT
Perhaps we can see a trend here. Brexit once seemed very unlikely, but it happened ( or rather, will happen, suposedly, though nobody really knows what it means).
So too, Trump once seemed very unlikely...
It all certainly makes politics more interesting, and gets our attention, but does anything ever really change? Will all Trump's anti-establishment bluster just dissapate into hot air, and all his 'reforms' just go the same way as the wonderful promises of Obama?
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Nov 9, 2016 11:45:12 GMT
Perhaps we can see a trend here. Brexit once seemed very unlikely, but it happened ( or rather, will happen, suposedly, though nobody really knows what it means). So too, Trump once seemed very unlikely... Both Trump and Farridge have explicitly linked this to brexit, repeatedly. I was quite surprised by the strength of feeling for brexit here, and would actually be interested to know how the brexiteers here view this. The big difference is that Obama only very briefly had Democratic control of both houses behind him, and - when he did - he had the depths of the financial crisis to grapple with as his top priority. Trump has both houses now, and no such drama. That may give him much greater scope. 
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Post by Liz on Nov 9, 2016 15:54:43 GMT
Looks like our poll called it better than the real polls  |
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Post by Liz on Nov 9, 2016 15:59:51 GMT
Anybody else feeling physically sick? NO, I haven't seen Clinton's speech yet She will be groveling to Trump now to avoid jail.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Nov 9, 2016 16:12:23 GMT
Anybody else feeling physically sick? NO, I haven't seen Clinton's speech yet She will be groveling to Trump now to avoid jail. Umm, wouldn't that depend on whether there's actually any evidence of her having committed a crime? Perhaps not any more...
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Post by ianj on Nov 9, 2016 16:33:57 GMT
NO, I haven't seen Clinton's speech yet She will be groveling to Trump now to avoid jail. Umm, wouldn't that depend on whether there's actually any evidence of her having committed a crime? Perhaps not any more... Well, we have to wonder just what lengths someone of Trump's character won't go to in order to achieve this? He can personally afford more legal services than you can shake a stick at.... and if the much hyped 'loading of the judiciary', considered so necessary by his supporters, really does allow tame lapdogs of the establishment to be appointed.........
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Post by am on Nov 9, 2016 21:22:04 GMT
President Trump: anyone think of any positives? It turns out that he's proposing to spend money fixing American infrastructure (so was Clinton).
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 9, 2016 22:17:51 GMT
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