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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 20, 2014 11:43:59 GMT
No, it's them (again).
Another 20 lines of error handler for me to write and debug. 8>.
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Post by is on Aug 20, 2014 11:47:59 GMT
The bots failing to cope with FC website tinkering perhaps
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 20, 2014 11:53:49 GMT
Well I was seeing some 404 errors on the 'sell my parts individually' tab earlier, but I doubt that caused the servers to evaporate. (Weirdly a 404 seems to be what you get if you manage to try to sell a loan part you don't hold (eg if you resend a sell request for instance, using the firefox edit/resend web developer facility). Very confusing.)
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Post by baz657 on Aug 20, 2014 16:03:13 GMT
Don't bother trying to keep up with the bidding wars at the end of a busy auction with the new "improved" loan pages. It's a hundred times worse than it ever was before. It's almost unusable.
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Post by mikeb on Aug 20, 2014 17:39:17 GMT
Had 502 Bad Gateway earlier. Now getting 503 Service not available. Is it me? It's them. The main www.fundingcircle.com homepage shows "Loans funded £0" ... which is a bit of step backward. 502, 503, blank pages, Connection reset by peer. Had 'em all. Oh, and (7357) total lock up at end of auction, my 9.4% bid pushed out, but the "bid" button (AGAIN) doesn't work, you press it, it engages/changes colour and ... and ... and ... auction over. No feedback that it did/didn't work. Just nothing. Refresh? No help, server too overloaded.
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Post by yorkshireman on Aug 21, 2014 12:41:15 GMT
The finish of auction 7372 was absolute chaos, with less than 10 seconds to go it appeared that I had in excess of £1K placed at 12.3 and 12.2 yet finished up with 2 bids at 12.2, refreshing the page or continually clicking the bid button makes no difference, the whole process appears to have degenerated into nothing more than a lottery. As a consequence my account balance was approximately £1k down for at least 10 minutes after the auction closed which says to me the site is totally unreliable. I’m familiar with the cut and thrust of business, I have no problem with competition provided it is on a level playing field and there is transparency and accountability but this was downright outrageous.
Either the site isn’t fit for purpose or it is being overwhelmed by bot bidders or whatever they are called, whichever it is FC or the regulator probably won’t give a damn let alone do anything which IMO indicates that P2P / P2B is becoming as opaque as the mainstream financial sector.
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Post by markr on Aug 21, 2014 13:24:20 GMT
The secret of a stress free life on FC is to look each morning at the loans ending that day, decide which you like and place bids somewhere near where you think the top rate is going to be then relax and let the bid bots fight it out and crash the website. When the dust settles, you'll either have some bids in (great) or you'll have been outbid (meh, there'll be another one along in a minute, or buy it on the secondary market if you're really that bothered).
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Post by yorkshireman on Aug 21, 2014 13:40:43 GMT
The secret of a stress free life on FC is to look each morning at the loans ending that day, decide which you like and place bids somewhere near where you think the top rate is going to be then relax and let the bid bots fight it out and crash the website. When the dust settles, you'll either have some bids in (great) or you'll have been outbid (meh, there'll be another one along in a minute, or buy it on the secondary market if you're really that bothered). I’m all for a stress free life Mark but when I’ve adopted that strategy I’ve usually been over cautious and bid too low, leaving me with parts that are well below the final rate, perhaps forum members might care to start forecasting target bid rates! Following my earlier comment I checked my FC account transaction statement for a different matter and found that it only shows 2 bids on 7372 whereas I made in excess of £1k worth of bids, that doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence in FC’s systems.
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Post by yorkshireman on Aug 21, 2014 14:04:42 GMT
Any thoughts on what rate 7386 will end at?
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Post by adrianc on Aug 21, 2014 14:06:15 GMT
The reason 7372 went so ballistic was due to the tall one dropping in nearly 80k to try and knock everyone else out. It was a tactical bid from them early on to keep the autobids at bay, so be prepared for 7386! Can somebody explain the logic of that? <hits the dread Autobid tab> OK, so default AB rates are 5.6%/A+, 6.5%/A, 7.3%/B etc. Let's say AB has £50k to lob on any one auction without breaking the diversity rules. A new auction comes up. A+, £100k, 0% filled, 15% current bid is in. A vertically unchallenged bidbot comes along, and splunks £80k in there at 14.9% or whatever. But why wouldn't AB then splunk £50k (or whatever) at 5.6%? 100% filled, £50k at 5.6%, £50k at 14.9%, £30k of 14.9% sat crumpled on the floor next to the bin. I presume the suggestion is that AB will ignore that auction and put the £50k onto the next one instead, to try to level out the fill %ages? If there's <say> five auctions on the go and less than £250k of AB money, then - yep - that theory would work. Equally, I can see that being a REALLY easy bit of market-gaming for the AB-fiddlers at FC to stamp out. Just remove or downplay that %-leveller. After all, no auction stays short of 100% filled for very long... not least because that'd mean nice high %ages. In the mean time, it doesn't actually negatively affect anybody manually bidding. The only people who might suffer from it are the few auctions that NOBODY finds attractive enough to manually bid on, even at 15%. And, let's face it, FC shouldn't have even approved them in the first place.
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Post by markr on Aug 21, 2014 15:12:53 GMT
Any thoughts on what rate 7386 will end at? Shall we have a sweep? I'll say 11%. I'm only reinvesting returns at the moment, so I'm just chucking in £20 bids, but I reckon I get outbid or within 0.5% of the top rate in well over half the auctions I bid in, and within 1% on most of the others. Occasionally I get it very wrong and am well under, but it's only £20 and it's not like I've lost it. If I was seriously flipping I'd either get a bid bot or "bracket" my bids around +/- 0.5% of my predicted end, then set the premiums accordingly when reselling to get the best buyer rate.
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Post by yorkshireman on Aug 21, 2014 15:27:36 GMT
Any thoughts on what rate 7386 will end at? Shall we have a sweep? I'll say 11%. I'm only reinvesting returns at the moment, so I'm just chucking in £20 bids, but I reckon I get outbid or within 0.5% of the top rate in well over half the auctions I bid in, and within 1% on most of the others. Occasionally I get it very wrong and am well under, but it's only £20 and it's not like I've lost it. If I was seriously flipping I'd either get a bid bot or "bracket" my bids around +/- 0.5% of my predicted end, then set the premiums accordingly when reselling to get the best buyer rate. Yes, 11% is my target also.
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Post by baz657 on Aug 21, 2014 15:33:25 GMT
I'm betting 11.4%. There's no way I'll try to keep up if it gets busy towards the end, although the slower new look seems to have been given up on again.
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Post by captainconfident on Aug 21, 2014 15:38:54 GMT
With 1hr 18m left and top rate 12%, my bet is to get some of this ..... 10.9
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Post by yorkshireman on Aug 21, 2014 16:04:41 GMT
“The reason 7372 went so ballistic was due to the tall one dropping in nearly 80k to try and knock everyone else out.” I'm not sure about his height but perhaps a certain Mr Cowell is aiming to take control of FC.
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