Snap UK General Election On 8 June

I would welcome a new, fresh, centrist, outward looking party.  I wouldn't want TB anywhere near it.

Oh Gawd, out of all of 'em, that's all we'd need, Bliar clawing his way back into politics with his blood-soaked hands.  

Like chielamangus also a political animal roving beast (& share much of his views) who would have in different places I’ve lived in voted for anything from military dictatorships to commie freedom fighters & other reds under the bed or hippy dippies of various colours under the rainbow though, unlike him, in recent years a reasonably convinced remainer & twice orange LD voter (for reasons of energy policy amongst others). This time I’m joining the blue team, with deep blue to the point of (almost, because I’m in one of the safest Tory seats) purple convictions.

Lots of things have changed my mind over the last year. To folk (like registerme & jonah) who it would seem share a good part of my political DNA & others of remain, redoubting, maybe unreleaving, wondering what the heck to do or might not vote etc persuasions I would recommend reading Roger Bootle’s “The Trouble with Europe” (or given the tight deadline just the 100 or so pages in Part 3 of his easily read, calm, not very long, deceptively simple & I found very convincing book).

Brexit is not the only game in town but, to my mind, first things first & when your house is on fire the first thing you do is put it out. We can worry about how to rearrange the furniture later.

Ps. Not sure it’s realistic to expect anything even remotely close to perfection from any party, manifesto, leader or, much less, election campaign. Come voting season they’re always (& I mean no disrespect) to one extent or another at least slightly dirty, lying, conniving scoundrels many with their own mini-agendas, hiring even less scrupulous advisors up to dastardly clever tricks. That’s just the democracy game at work (in the so called enlightened developed world, where actually so much still sucks, far from perfect as we are). If it’s worse this time that’s likely just because it was a snap election with so much happening & shifting in our front yard & around the world.

As to Mrs. TM me too not hugely impressed by some things, but think it’s still far too early to judge (particularly on the one job she’s got to get right). If she turns out to be just a one trick pony then I’m more than ok with that.

This is not an election to get right, but one not to get wrong. A few years down the line nothing else, u-turns, rubbish policies, broken promises, who turned up at what debate or even the incredible size of the father xmas wish list some had the temerity to tempt us with will be remembered.

The problem is, we can't.

We now have 21 months until Article 50 takes effect. We haven't even STARTED negotiation yet. All we've done is insult the people we're meant to be coming to an agreement with. That's... not sensible.

In 21 months time, unless finger is extracted sharpish, WTO rules will apply to trade between the UK and the EU.

If the house is on fire, it's because we got pissed, put the chip pan on, lit a ciggy, then fell asleep.

adrianc we would have been on a fully EU certified bed/ couch and using a fully compliant chip pan to cook fully compliant chips so we would have been fully protected from our own actions by those awfully nice eurocrats efforts..... or not.
Politics outside of wartime is never about common sense as its left to the electorate...

Any lingering doubts i had regarding corbyn were confirmed on friday evenings question time special.

The man is a danger to the security and protection of this country.

Sometimes I think it would be good to have a time machine to take all these left leaning youth of today back to a dark raining evening during my youth, sitting there in the glow of candlelight because the electricity was off again. Or perhaps just send them to Venezuela to see the result of economic and social policies that both Corbyn, Abbott and many other high profile labour figures praised fulsomely. Of course, Venezuela is now bankrupt, a basket case.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSIQAKpaR20