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Post by grahamreeds on Aug 11, 2017 6:11:13 GMT
It is just a stylesheet change. The myriad of broken things are still broken and the site is still unusable on a 6P. Still requesting the desktop version.
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Post by adrian77 on Aug 11, 2017 7:34:54 GMT
have looked at the source code - these style sheets are the most complicated I have ever seen
and look overtly complicated to me (granted they could be automatically generated)
If this site was properly coded then all sub-headings would be modified by a single (parent or child) CSS and this would not occur? In a similar vein I note some financial pages have Terms and Conditions followed by the investor report and for others it is the other way round which really points to coding inconsistency - in fact the logo also looks inconsistent to me with the quadrants being asymmetric in the x and y planes so maybe a true reflection about what I think of the FC business model... however I only use FC to flip from time to time as I have lost confidence in them (although interested in watching the default progress of wayward property loans).
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Post by voss on Aug 11, 2017 9:59:23 GMT
The new 'symbol' appears to be some kind of deformed butterfly - gone are the intertwined arrows - what is the message here? Deformed butterfly is good. Floundering Circles also seems apt. And can anyone guess how much the branding consultants were paid who came up with this? And will it be consignia'd to history within two years?
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Post by voss on Aug 11, 2017 13:53:35 GMT
The newsletter explains the new brand - Made to do More - lots of breathless sentences, some with no finite verb (now that reminds me of Tony Blair extolling New Labour policies) - and a picture of a young man posing a bit like Blair once did alongside Bush - as if he had piles. What a jargon-fest of brand-speak. Yuk!
Sample: "We share a uniquely driven yet positive attitude to work and life, a restless determination to succeed and the tenacity to get there. We call this Made to do More. ... Ordinary people doing extraordinary things, pushing the economy forward."
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Post by spareapennyor2 on Aug 11, 2017 14:06:24 GMT
Recent Loan Comments ( window)
would the thinking be if you can`t see the comments you can`t complain?
would this be the work of "our highly experience web design team "
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Post by andyp on Aug 11, 2017 14:56:47 GMT
A new comment has appeared on the summary page
The audacity of hope.....
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Post by adrian77 on Aug 11, 2017 16:28:04 GMT
reF : "We share a uniquely driven yet positive attitude to work and life, a restless determination to succeed and the tenacity to get there. We call this Made to do More. ... Ordinary people doing extraordinary things, pushing the economy forward."
Who wrote this twaddle - Ricky Gervais as part of his comedy script for "The Office" - FC note the quotation marks! Or was it Tony Blair's spin doctor during the free Friday booze up?
I haven't really done anything extraordinary in my life and I sure have not pushed the UK economy forward so I guess I should worship the FC elite and bathe in the awe of their radiant metaphysical and superior talents and feel duly humbled for being a mere mortal and can only dream that one day I will stand on the shoulders of such giants ( nanos gigantum humeris insidentes ). In the meantime I will try to eke out my miserable and meaningless existence without getting too depressed about my own inadequacies. Maybe I should sell one of my 4 houses to buy a giant purple puppet as a mentor on the road to existentialist nirvana, a state which FC have clearly reached.
I always read the PR when investing in a company.....
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Post by c88dnf on Aug 11, 2017 18:44:53 GMT
A new comment has appeared on the summary page The audacity of hope..... "The web team have been working hard to complete the solution. We will provide an update in 1-2 weeks" Now where have I read that before...... 
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Post by grahamreeds on Aug 11, 2017 21:48:45 GMT
During the recent Historical Loans SNAFU I suggested that they roll back the change rather than spend several days fixing it. I was rebuffed being told it is not as simple as that.
Now that they have made the change to recent comments and again this bug has lingered for days it puzzles me that they made the change, nobody seemed to question the fact that possibly the most viewed section of that page is now unusable, that they now can't roll back that change they now have to plough on forwards like Star Trekkin' - "because we can't find reverse".
Are they not using source control? Are they still using Visual Source Safe?
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Post by adrian77 on Aug 11, 2017 21:49:42 GMT
ref --The web team have been working hard to complete the solution. We will provide an update in 1-2 weeks"
-- if I was back in my last IT role they would have worked hard to get it right in the first place before I tested and released the code! As to why the IT resources are being diverted from the numerous system bugs defeats me.
Cumbria looks shaky, as does Tewkesbury and Borehamwood - methinks something is going to give...
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Post by lonerifle on Aug 12, 2017 12:04:08 GMT
The "Recent Loan Comments" box is comically bad, like trying to read a newspaper through a letterbox. It's astonishing no-one at FC tests this stuff with a lender or two before releasing it. lonerifle , is there anything simple that can be done within FCViz to enlarge the "Recent Loan Comments" box again? Working on it now. EDIT: Hmm. Doesn't seem simple. Clicking on the Loan Details Link will enforce that the height of the Loan Comments pane is always at 150 pixels, so this was probably a deliberate design decision that passed testing as expected behaviour. Moreover, given that the comments loads in as a separate page embedded in the summary dashboard, it's a bit tedious, as I have to create a bunch of boilerplate in FCViz to cater to it. Might be an opportunity for me to see how we can better revamp the comments page though. Suggestions welcome. EDIT x 2: Okay, it's truly a bug, not a deliberate design decision. Further details in the latest comment
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Post by andyp on Aug 12, 2017 12:45:42 GMT
Hi Lonerifle,
I wouldn't put too much effort in as it looks like they're going to be tinkering with it again this afternoon.
I guess we should be bracing ourselves for a 2cm square comments box and being logged out after 10 minutes, alternately they might just be putting the new logo on all the pages that they forgot to change.
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Post by lonerifle on Aug 13, 2017 11:04:07 GMT
Alright, I found the typo causing the squeezy Loan Comments pane:  In lines 3011 and 3012, Math.min takes the minimum of the two values given. They really should be Math.max, the maximum; you want the Loan Comments pane to be of the same height as its entire contents (html.scrollHeight) or however high it was when empty (html.offsetHeight), whichever is greater. It's a simple enough mistake to make, and a simple enough mistake to fix. That said, it's extremely fiddly doing it from FCViz - the problem is that this particular bit uses Angular, which - to cut a long story short - makes manipulation from third party extensions very difficult purely by coincidence. EDIT: Okay, it's slightly more complicated than just a typo change. Let me look further. |
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Post by lonerifle on Aug 13, 2017 14:04:40 GMT
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Post by adrian77 on Aug 13, 2017 15:25:09 GMT
well done lonerifle - you seem a very good programmer to me - surely this should have been picked up in basic testing?
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