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Post by adrianc on Apr 6, 2016 16:27:36 GMT
RS does not discriminate or target particular social groups I'm sure they don't, and I'm sure they'd be horrified if there was any such suggestion. This kind of analysis helps them to ensure they don't do so unwittingly.
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Post by alender on Apr 6, 2016 17:41:25 GMT
Farcical isn't it and a sure sign that a company has begun to focus on things other than its business model. What next - a requirement to have more one legged black lesbians? Politics (and especially this divisive kind) should be left to politicians. I disagree. Equality is important - what some people call "political correctness" is more accurately termed "basic respect for everybody regardless of irrelevances" - and if there's something about P2P or RS which is alienating a segment of the market, it's important to try to identify that and rectify it. Please explain to me how RS is discriminating against women or are you looking towards positive discrimination, ie a better rate if you are female so we can get to the situation where there is a 50/50 mix of male female investors. I would far rather RS times was spent explaining the rules, how rates are set, why it takes so long to get money out of RS improving the IT and the product than going down some PC route wasting time and money when there clearly is no discrimination on the platform.
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Post by adrianc on Apr 6, 2016 17:44:30 GMT
Please explain to me how RS is discriminating against women I haven't said they are. I doubt they are. I sincerely hope they aren't. No, definitely not.
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Post by jonah on Apr 6, 2016 18:30:59 GMT
if there's something about P2P or RS which is alienating a segment of the market, it's important to try to identify that and rectify it. Not least as that could generate a few more RS investors for them!
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Post by alender on Apr 6, 2016 18:31:13 GMT
This looks to me the professionally offended pursuing a cause where there is clearly nothing wrong in order for self gratification or financial gain. I for one have had to sit through this type of stuff at work and have better things to do than sit through this in my own time.
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Post by jonah on Apr 6, 2016 18:31:55 GMT
Please explain to me how RS is discriminating against women I haven't said they are. I doubt they are. I sincerely hope they aren't. No, definitely not. Looking for unconscious biases and removing them is a good thing. Positive discrimination can be a good thing, but I don't think so in this example.
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Post by alender on Apr 6, 2016 18:37:54 GMT
if there's something about P2P or RS which is alienating a segment of the market, it's important to try to identify that and rectify it. Not least as that could generate a few more RS investors for them! I did wonder if RS had some self interest in this in that they might be able to drum up some more investors, this fine for them and their marketing department but please do not to bore the rest of us with this stuff.
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Post by alender on Apr 6, 2016 18:50:19 GMT
Farcical isn't it and a sure sign that a company has begun to focus on things other than its business model. What next - a requirement to have more one legged black lesbians? Politics (and especially this divisive kind) should be left to politicians. You can’t say this otherwise you are in danger of the thought police breaking down you door at 3 in the morning. What you should say is an LGBT mobility challenged female person of colour. Looks like you are next on the list for re-education in social awareness.
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Post by pip on Apr 6, 2016 19:40:58 GMT
I think this conversation has gone well off topic and if everybody is in agreement can we drop it and get back on topic. The tone of previous posts are not doing anybody any favours and I would recommend those that wrote them delete them.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Apr 6, 2016 20:21:19 GMT
/mod hat on Agree with pip, and unless folks cease and desist the moderation snipping shears will be out, and there'll be some eunuchs joining the mix over on the quarantine board.. /end mod My view: RS can debate what they like, if you don't think it is an interesting subject, stay away in droves (or attend and tell them why it doesn't matter). Or start a PC poll / thread under chat ... or PM one another with derogatory comments .. whatever.. just try to stay on the topic of (Ratesetter) P2P on this board. We used to have a signal to noise ratio, now it's noise to signal.
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Post by locutus on Apr 6, 2016 20:23:03 GMT
I think this conversation has gone well off topic and if everybody is in agreement can we drop it and get back on topic. The tone of previous posts are not doing anybody any favours and I would recommend those that wrote them delete them. Why? They are valid opinions and not inflammatory. If anything, they are more inclusive than the divisive topic that sparked them. I won't be deleting anything. Mods are welcome to do what they believe is right and justified. Peace.
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Post by jonah on Apr 6, 2016 20:40:16 GMT
Want to offer odds on the PF being discussed at all in this session?
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 6, 2016 21:19:22 GMT
This forum is not a 'snug in the local' where you are having an alcohol fuelled joshing (or otherwise) session with your personally selected group of like minded intimates. Its a public forum.
Its an RS event: they can set whatever agenda they like. If you don't believe it has value for you, don't attend. If you feel it does have value, but your personal sensibilities/values/politics or whatever are somehow offended by specific agenda items, then don't attend. Or go get a coffee during that session. If you believe it is on some way demeaning/wrong for a business to have a discussion as to why in its opinion certain demographic groups are under represented within its customer base, then don't attend/go get a coffee/disinvest. Or attend and see whether you might learn something.
But don't bring those views to this forum in the way they have been expressed in the last few hours.
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Post by alender on Apr 6, 2016 23:00:26 GMT
/mod hat on Agree with pip , and unless folks cease and desist the moderation snipping shears will be out, and there'll be some eunuchs joining the mix over on the quarantine board.. /end mod My view: RS can debate what they like, if you don't think it is an interesting subject, stay away in droves (or attend and tell them why it doesn't matter). Or start a PC poll / thread under chat ... or PM one another with derogatory comments .. whatever.. just try to stay on the topic of (Ratesetter) P2P on this board. We used to have a signal to noise ratio, now it's noise to signal. As a moderator who has a job to do and is prepared to spend time and effort I must respect your decision. However I would like to say that this is a topic on the RS drinks evening and RS have decided to devote a large part of the evening to this subject and therefore I personally cannot see why is not appropriate for discussion. In my case it has changed my mind and I will not now be attending the event.
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Post by elgerod on Apr 6, 2016 23:43:22 GMT
/mod hat on Agree with pip , and unless folks cease and desist the moderation snipping shears will be out, and there'll be some eunuchs joining the mix over on the quarantine board.. /end mod My view: RS can debate what they like, if you don't think it is an interesting subject, stay away in droves (or attend and tell them why it doesn't matter). Or start a PC poll / thread under chat ... or PM one another with derogatory comments .. whatever.. just try to stay on the topic of (Ratesetter) P2P on this board. We used to have a signal to noise ratio, now it's noise to signal. As a moderator who has a job to do and is prepared to spend time and effort I must respect your decision. However I would like to say that this is a topic on the RS drinks evening and RS have decided to devote a large part of the evening to this subject and therefore I personally cannot see why is not appropriate for discussion. In my case it has changed my mind and I will not now be attending the event. alender , I think you may be mistaken and maybe you could reconsider about attending the event. AFAIK, this is not a topic on the RS drinks evening. In westonkevRS 's original post on 23rd Feb 2016, he said: "Secondly a debate on why there aren't more women investors. This is free in the new RateSetter office on Bishopsgate London on Thursday 10th March 2016. The invite is for both the sexes!" Seems that the debate has already taken place, unless I've missed something.
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