ashtondav
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Post by ashtondav on Jan 29, 2019 16:23:05 GMT
18 December. Still waiting...
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Post by gravitykillz on Jan 29, 2019 19:10:43 GMT
Set my account to withdraw capital and interest. But for some reason every month a penny goes into my lending wallet and the rest into pending withdrawal? Weird!
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Post by Proptechfish on Jan 29, 2019 19:16:36 GMT
Set my account to withdraw capital and interest. But for some reason every month a penny goes into my lending wallet and the rest into pending withdrawal? Weird! I've experienced this on number of platforms. I just put it down to rounding.
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Post by n on Jan 30, 2019 10:43:11 GMT
Set my account to withdraw capital and interest. But for some reason every month a penny goes into my lending wallet and the rest into pending withdrawal? Weird! I hate that. What I have found is that if I manually withdraw the penny in the morning of the day the automatic withdrawal is to occur they add it to that amount, so there is only 1 payment. Dashboard nice and neat again.
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Post by benaj on Jan 30, 2019 11:44:53 GMT
Bear in mind the Number of active lenders on LW is 5k. Assuming every lender dumps 2k within a month would increase the lending queue by 10 Mil.
Average lending value per lender is already 22k.
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Post by pom on Jan 30, 2019 16:56:08 GMT
Bear in mind the Number of active lenders on LW is 5k. Assuming every lender dumps 2k within a month would increase the lending queue by 10 Mil. Average lending value per lender is already 22k. Why would you assume that? Unless they suddenly introduced a bonus (not very likely at the moment) its more likely that longer term lenders will stay in a steady state, increasing only through interest payments.
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Post by benaj on Jan 30, 2019 17:06:25 GMT
Bear in mind the Number of active lenders on LW is 5k. Assuming every lender dumps 2k within a month would increase the lending queue by 10 Mil. Average lending value per lender is already 22k. Why would you assume that? Unless they suddenly introduced a bonus (not very likely at the moment) its more likely that longer term lenders will stay in a steady state, increasing only through interest payments. I am only second guessing. The recent rates LW offer, increasing popularity and shfitng money from other platform attracts new money. Only LW knows how much new money has been quening / added since November '18
Back in March 2016, number of LW lenders is 1300, average lending per lender is 7k
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Post by df on Jan 30, 2019 22:44:37 GMT
Why would you assume that? Unless they suddenly introduced a bonus (not very likely at the moment) its more likely that longer term lenders will stay in a steady state, increasing only through interest payments. I am only second guessing. The recent rates LW offer, increasing popularity and shfitng money from other platform attracts new money. Only LW knows how much new money has been quening / added since November '18
Back in March 2016, number of LW lenders is 1300, average lending per lender is 7k That's what I thought will happen soon after 0.5% increase was announced. One part of the plan worked - new money arrived, the other failed - there was no need for new money. I've put a small test new offer 6 days ago, not lent yet and no idea what the current queue is.
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Post by pom on Jan 31, 2019 10:03:21 GMT
Why would you assume that? Unless they suddenly introduced a bonus (not very likely at the moment) its more likely that longer term lenders will stay in a steady state, increasing only through interest payments. I am only second guessing. The recent rates LW offer, increasing popularity and shfitng money from other platform attracts new money. Only LW knows how much new money has been quening / added since November '18
Back in March 2016, number of LW lenders is 1300, average lending per lender is 7k Sure only LW know,but on the basis that average lending increased by 15k in nearly 3years, its highly unlikely to work out at an average increase of 2k each in a month! Even if the growth had been linear an average growth of less than £500 would be more expected. But I'm quite sure it would have been nothing like linear, LW will have benefited greatly from being the first of the "original" p2p companies to get full auth and offer an ISA in 2017, and we know take up then must have been good because the rates dropped by quite a bit. And given they haven't yet dropped the rates on us, I suspect they do expect to catch up soon, probably because demand for loans does drop around xmas
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Post by benaj on Jan 31, 2019 10:09:01 GMT
Hi pom , I didn't mean increase 2k per investor each month, but I do expect LW volume from Dec '18 to Jan' 19 around 9Mil+. At the moment it seems it hasn't cleared the investment queue backlog from 24th Dec. Anyone notice any delay for new money in December? My queue ahead is £815,711.72 (12-Dec-2018), estimated matching time is still 7 days, where I deposited the money last week. What I fail to understand is the estimated matching time back in December. My queue was 815k on 12th Dec 2018, Lending volume back in Dec '18 is 3.7 Mil, but My new deposit on the 5th Dec was fully matched on 9th Jan 2019. Something is not right.
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Post by pom on Jan 31, 2019 11:17:12 GMT
Hi pom , I didn't mean increase 2k per investor each month, but I do expect LW volume from Dec '18 to Jan' 19 around 9Mil+. At the moment it seems it hasn't cleared the investment queue backlog from 24th Dec. I didn't say each month - that would be even more ridiculous than your assumption that the demand increase could be an average 2k within a month. Be annoyed at the delays if you wish (but when you are fully invested you'll be very glad that re-investments take priority) but throwing around figures that you have no evidence to support doesn't help anyone. Wiseclerk's figures show monthly lending in the 3-6M range for the last 6 months, with Dec being the lowest. We know that reinvestments have been fine (not that long term investors are as likely to spot queues, so that could be an incorrect assumption), but new money stalled, so we can perhaps assume that reinvestments make up around 3M/month of that.... So if new money were anywhere near the 10M you suggested rates would undoubtedly have plummeted as the only way they'd ever catch up would be to reduce the rate of deposits. However the drop in demand might support an assumption of 2-3M, and that would be a far more reasonable amount for LW to assume they'd be able to catch up once demand increased again (and so not need to drop rates)- tho still probably too much of a challenge to be realistic. And that's far more than I ever wanted to think about all this, so if that hasn't made you think a bit more then, whatevs.
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Post by pom on Jan 31, 2019 11:24:33 GMT
Hi pom , I didn't mean increase 2k per investor each month, but I do expect LW volume from Dec '18 to Jan' 19 around 9Mil+. At the moment it seems it hasn't cleared the investment queue backlog from 24th Dec. Anyone notice any delay for new money in December? My queue ahead is £815,711.72 (12-Dec-2018), estimated matching time is still 7 days, where I deposited the money last week. What I fail to understand is the estimated matching time back in December. My queue was 815k on 12th Dec 2018, Lending volume back in Dec '18 is 3.7 Mil, but My new deposit on the 5th Dec was fully matched on 9th Jan 2019. Something is not right. As many people have said on this board, reinvestments are given priority, hence the queue is always changing depending on when repayments come in As for you deciding an extrapolation from 800k to 9-10M was reasonable...well, I truly give up. PS I see you've found wiseclerks figures, but note he converts to Euros.
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Post by benaj on Jan 31, 2019 12:08:43 GMT
PS I see you've found wiseclerks figures, but note he converts to Euros. You do have a point pom , the euro figures confusing as the exchange rate fluctuates. Actual lending volume back in Dec 17 is 3.2Mil GBP, Dec 18 is 3.4 Mil GBP, so actually lending volume increased by 6% to previous year. January 18 lending volume is £5.0Mil GBP, so my 9 Mil estimate for Dec 18 - Jan 19 is reasonable. My point regarding the 10 Mil is only a BIG IF scenario, if 5000 investors decide to throw 2k like you said a special promotion of something. The rate increase back in November did attract new money on certain level. As LW is a growing platform, we do not know how well it can handle accelerated growth. It is not unreasonable to estimate reinvestment to the high end 3Mil GBP per month, given 800k lending queue took more than a month to clear. My main point is investors are being very patient here, some are still waiting for their investments to be lent out deposited from 24th Dec. Well, it seems people like this platform and happy to wait a little longer like myself. One month and a bit did not seem too bad.
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Post by zlb on Jan 31, 2019 13:52:48 GMT
What does this mean, on this matter?
"Due to anticipated seasonal fluctuation, our matching times are temporarily longer than usual. To counteract, we're currently integrating additional partners to provide increased lending demand which will dramatically reduce queue times."
Would be reassuring to know who the additional partners are.
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Post by tomp on Jan 31, 2019 19:19:25 GMT
Deposit from 24/12/2018 still waiting in the queue update: matched today
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