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Post by adrianc on Feb 7, 2023 23:05:53 GMT
1200 litres of LPG delivered by Avanti this morning.
Finally. The order had been placed before New Year. We've had the heating off since Wednesday, as we were down around 1-2%...
I wonder how much it'll be.
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Post by bracknellboy on Feb 8, 2023 8:13:59 GMT
1200 litres of LPG delivered by Avanti this morning. Finally. The order had been placed before New Year. We've had the heating off since Wednesday, as we were down around 1-2%... I wonder how much it'll be. adrianc I wish I'd seen this earlier. I learnt last night that my father's tank is now below 10%. He gets through a lot of heating oil as he is 90 and lives in an old place. He is on auto order and the order was system generated on 12/01. I spoke to them last night, but it was too late to be able to talk to support staff who could give me an ETA. This is quite concerning: what reason have Avanti been giving for lack of delivery ? I don't know how these systems work, but I'm thinking that having the system empty i.e. run out could be particularly bad (not just from a keeping warm point of view I mean). EDIT: Pretty unimpressed with these guys right now. I got through to one bit of the support centre, told me it was the wrong part, then put through to another. I spent another 35+ minutes on flaming hold. And when I got through, they told me I'd must been put through to the order centre again and they couldn't give me a delivery date.
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Post by jo on Feb 8, 2023 9:04:48 GMT
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Post by keitha on Feb 8, 2023 15:17:28 GMT
The one part of the energy support is the bit about if power included in the rent, you have to apply for the £400.
I know a couple of landlords who do include the Gas / Electric in the rent, primarily because they don't want the properties to end up with prepayment meters. they haven't increased the rent with the energy costs increasing, so why should the tenants get £400 "free"
We have a block of council flats nearby where the heating is included in the rent, basically the tenants electricity bill is only for Lighting, cooking etc, given I know some are on benefits they have been given more than the cost of the bills in support
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Post by mogish on Feb 8, 2023 16:09:51 GMT
I bought 500 litres last week. 81.9 plus vat. £428.
Heating oil subsidy should be paid this month to account where direct debit is paid to electric company.
This was on MSE this morning.
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Post by adrianc on Feb 8, 2023 17:20:38 GMT
This is quite concerning: what reason have Avanti been giving for lack of delivery ? Refinery went down in December for maintenance, nobody told the distributors, who were just surprised by not receiving deliveries - then the really cold bit after NY. They swore blind they were just about back to normal, but didn't answer why ours had got missed... We have run out before... No issues. Both boiler and hob fired straight up once the air's out the lines. There are bleed points on the tank and stop valve just outside the house, too.
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Post by mogish on Feb 15, 2023 18:23:21 GMT
Still no payment recieved. C'mon rushi, get your act together.
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Post by michaelc on Feb 15, 2023 20:36:45 GMT
How do the running costs of oil compare to using gas? Most of the online info I've seen so far is way out of date.
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Post by adrianc on Feb 15, 2023 20:56:16 GMT
How do the running costs of oil compare to using gas? Most of the online info I've seen so far is way out of date. Comparing oil with bulk LPG, rather than mains gas? How long is a piece of string? Oil price is much more spot-market variable, LPG is tied to a contract. You can't cook on oil, bottles for a gas hob are a lot more expensive. The midnight oil fairies don't visit LPG tanks. LPG tanks and boilers never stink of oil. Roun' by 'yer, oil boilers are a lot easier to get fixed than LPG. I'm glad we have LPG, not oil. It's more intangible than just price.
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Post by adrianc on Feb 15, 2023 21:00:10 GMT
1200 litres of LPG delivered by Avanti this morning. Finally. The order had been placed before New Year. We've had the heating off since Wednesday, as we were down around 1-2%... I wonder how much it'll be. ...and the answer is 52p + 5% VAT. Quite pleasantly surprised.
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Post by michaelc on Feb 15, 2023 21:00:26 GMT
How do the running costs of oil compare to using gas? Most of the online info I've seen so far is way out of date. Comparing oil with bulk LPG, rather than mains gas? How long is a piece of string? Oil price is much more spot-market variable, LPG is tied to a contract. You can't cook on oil, bottles for a gas hob are a lot more expensive. The midnight oil fairies don't visit LPG tanks. LPG tanks and boilers never stink of oil. Roun' by 'yer, oil boilers are a lot easier to get fixed than LPG. I'm glad we have LPG, not oil. It's more intangible than just price. I meant LPG or oil VS piped natural gas. (But still interesting to see real world differences between LPG and oil as you've kindly explained)
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Post by adrianc on Feb 15, 2023 21:01:31 GMT
Comparing oil with bulk LPG, rather than mains gas? How long is a piece of string? Oil price is much more spot-market variable, LPG is tied to a contract. You can't cook on oil, bottles for a gas hob are a lot more expensive. The midnight oil fairies don't visit LPG tanks. LPG tanks and boilers never stink of oil. Roun' by 'yer, oil boilers are a lot easier to get fixed than LPG. I'm glad we have LPG, not oil. It's more intangible than just price. I meant LPG or oil VS piped natural gas. Are you taking the costs of moving house into account? Mains gas has always been WAY cheaper. Those of us on oil or bulk LPG do not have the option of mains gas. There's about 7kWh in a litre of gas, so my 52p+vat = just under 8p/kWh. The current price cap is 10p/kWh - the average was 3p a couple of years ago. But don't forget the tank rental - £5.50/mo + 5% vat - and the hassle. My tank had to be relocated to fit current regs when we moved in. I had to arrange a concrete base and a trench to do that. Then there's the fun of deliveries. Oh, and your boiler and hob have to be rejetted for LPG, while most (mains) gas boiler servicers can't work on LPG boilers - the certification is different.
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Post by mogish on Feb 15, 2023 21:03:39 GMT
How do the running costs of oil compare to using gas? Most of the online info I've seen so far is way out of date. Comparing oil with bulk LPG, rather than mains gas? How long is a piece of string? Oil price is much more spot-market variable, LPG is tied to a contract. You can't cook on oil, bottles for a gas hob are a lot more expensive. The midnight oil fairies don't visit LPG tanks. LPG tanks and boilers never stink of oil. Roun' by 'yer, oil boilers are a lot easier to get fixed than LPG. I'm glad we have LPG, not oil. It's more intangible than just price. Agree with all above. I removed our Lpg tank when we bought the house 25 years ago as oil was much cheaper. I can service the oil boiler myself. Ours is only for central heating and hot water which we use approx 1000 to 1500 litres a year . I would .imagine our utility Bill's are much the same as every one elses. Seems theres no cheap alternative fuel to be had any more so its probably down to what you prefer. Gas does seem better for cooking.
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Post by adrianc on Feb 15, 2023 21:10:01 GMT
...oh, yes...
Our tree surgeon told me the other year about a job he was doing near here.
Somebody's non-bunded oil tank had sprung a major leak, low down, days after being filled... 100m from the river.
He was involved in cutting several poisoned mature trees down. He thought the final clean-up bill would cost the insurers about £30-40k, if not more, and they'd been lucky to catch it quickly.
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Post by michaelc on Feb 15, 2023 21:13:42 GMT
Still less than a natural gas explosion.
And as was said, must be nice to install and service your own boiler.
I just wondered in the current climate if the difference in running costs between them had narrowed a little.....Perhaps not.
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