jonno
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Post by jonno on Apr 9, 2023 9:48:12 GMT
Is Sturgeon going to get the opportunity to change her mind on what it's like in a women's prison with dubious transgenders ? Then again financial fraud is a white collar victimless crime in the UK where justice is rarely served cold.
I guess it would be the ultimate irony. Nicola get banged up with a transgender cell mate. Not half!! I'd pay to see that.
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 9, 2023 13:31:39 GMT
Police sieze £100k motor home from Nicola's mother in law. I wonder why a 92yo needs a motor home?
To all those reporters referring to said vehicle as a 'luxury campervan' (no doubt text repeatedly copied from the original source), IT'S NOT A CAMPERVAN. This is a campervan: This is a Niesmann + Bischoff 'luxury motorhome' (not necessarily the one previously sitting on Mrs Murrells driveway):
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Post by agent69 on Apr 9, 2023 14:43:49 GMT
Police sieze £100k motor home from Nicola's mother in law. I wonder why a 92yo needs a motor home?
To all those reporters referring to said vehicle as a 'luxury campervan' (no doubt text repeatedly copied from the original source), IT'S NOT A CAMPERVAN. This is a campervan: This is a Niesmann + Bischoff 'luxury motorhome' (not necessarily the one previously sitting on Mrs Murrells driveway): Neighbours said that 2 men delivered it just over 2 years ago, and it hasn't moved since. All sound a bit iffy to me
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Post by james100 on Apr 9, 2023 14:47:43 GMT
I've just been on the website (it's the ismove variant apparently) and the first marketing spiel banner for this van was "Breaking All The Rules". www.niesmann-bischoff.com/en/ismove/
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Post by keitha on Apr 9, 2023 16:37:37 GMT
I've just been on the website (it's the ismove variant apparently) and the first marketing spiel banner for this van was " Breaking All The Rules". www.niesmann-bischoff.com/en/ismove/what wee Nicola, never a rule breaker that one, in all honesty I can imagine being at a party with Boris, or having a Curry with Kier Starmer. can't imagine in any way socialising with her, i really don't think she would have a clue as to how to enjoy herself
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Post by travolta on Apr 9, 2023 16:46:04 GMT
I can't think that either of them would be daft enough to divert £600,000 and buy a motorhome .
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Post by agent69 on Apr 9, 2023 17:00:46 GMT
I can't think that either of them would be daft enough to divert £600,000 and buy a motorhome . Especially one that was only worth £100k (unless there are 5 others hidden away somewhere)
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Post by mogish on Apr 9, 2023 17:24:51 GMT
I can't think that either of them would be daft enough to divert £600,000 and buy a motorhome . Especially one that was only worth £100k (unless there are 5 others hidden away somewhere) With her starving the local councils of funding and lack of repairs to Scotlands roads, I would find it very amusing if they broke a spring or got a puncture whilst travelling about in it. Maybe she invested it in a baby box manufacturer company 😁
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 9, 2023 17:24:58 GMT
I've just been on the website (it's the ismove variant apparently) and the first marketing spiel banner for this van was "Breaking All The Rules". www.niesmann-bischoff.com/en/ismove/was it the isMove ? Some of the articles are referring to a 5 ton (ne) vehicle: this looks like it is set up to be a standard 3.5t (so that it can be driven by those younger than me who are on more limited licences).
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Post by james100 on Apr 9, 2023 19:25:03 GMT
I've just been on the website (it's the ismove variant apparently) and the first marketing spiel banner for this van was "Breaking All The Rules". www.niesmann-bischoff.com/en/ismove/was it the isMove ? Some of the articles are referring to a 5 ton (ne) vehicle: this looks like it is set up to be a standard 3.5t (so that it can be driven by those younger than me who are on more limited licences). I only read it in DT so facts an option extra, but I think it's base 3.5 which ends up 5 with recommended fit out + battery. I notice the Arto model has a storage compartment under the floor to keep a secret cash wine stash though so... Surprised by my level of interest in it to be honest; probably trauma response from too many childhood holidays in a much less luxurious version!
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Post by adrianc on Apr 9, 2023 20:16:23 GMT
Seems to be a N&B S-Move. Coachbuilt moho (so still retains the van bonnet/wings/windscreen), rather than a van conversion ( "campervan") or an A-class (where all the external panelwork is the converter's, which is all N&B do now). I suspect the Wail have found a used ad like this... www.southdownsmotorhomecentre.co.uk/used-2020-niesmann-bischoff-smove-low-profile-motorhome-u201931.html£120k - and sold - for a 3yo similar van, listed as 4500kg gvw. All the quoted weights for stuff like this are the maximum laden - because that's where the 3.5t driving licence breakpoint kicks in, especially for over-70s.
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 9, 2023 20:52:32 GMT
was it the isMove ? Some of the articles are referring to a 5 ton (ne) vehicle: this looks like it is set up to be a standard 3.5t (so that it can be driven by those younger than me who are on more limited licences). I only read it in DT so facts an option extra, but I think it's base 3.5 which ends up 5 with recommended fit out + battery. I notice the Arto model has a storage compartment under the floor to keep a secret cash wine stash though so... Surprised by my level of interest in it to be honest; probably trauma response from too many childhood holidays in a much less luxurious version! that's not normally how it works. On a coachwork build, (and indeed normally an A-Class) the vehicle weight that is talked about is the MGW - mass gross weight that the loaded vehicle must not exceed in its converted form (dictated by the base vehicle, taking into account any upgrades to e.g. suspension that may have been done). That ties into what people are licensed (or not licensed) to drive. Hence the focus on 3.5t as that is where driving license cut off is. If you are my age, then you have C1 class driving rights grandfathered in, allowing you to drive >3.5 < 7.5t. If you are younger, you won't by default. Hence the focus on 3.5t MGW, as below that means those without C1 can drive it. For a MoHo the unladen weight - or the inverse i.e. the spare weight available up to the MGW - is specified. It used to be (no idea whether still is) that allows for a standard specified amount of 'onboard' or laden weight: e.g. water tank full, 1x gas bottle , 2x people at some specified average weight, half grey water tank, other bits and pieces. The frequently little spare capacity that is left between that and the vehicle's MGW is often a surprise to people. Just as an example. Our 7m MoHo as originally built had an MGW of 3.5t (fitting the above model). Its unladen weight is of course less than that. And the original base vehicle on which it was based had a lower unladen (and I think possibly MGW) than that still. As it happens, ours had an after market suspension upgrade (prior to our ownership) to take it to 3.9t MGW. That probably is not far off doubling the available free load weight. The good news is that because we both have C1 on our driving license we can still drive it. I think if we didn't, we could probably downgrade its registration to 3.5t max - even if it is PHYSICALLY capable of going higher. And of course we can also load it up with more tins of beans than would otherwise be the case. And surprisingly the road tax is a bit less than it would be: at >3.5t it is classified as a 'Private HGV', with a lower road tax. On the flip side, if we were to take it to e.g. France (if we could ever get through Dover) we would have to pay extra to get a 'vignette'.
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Post by bernythedolt on Apr 10, 2023 0:10:10 GMT
I only read it in DT so facts an option extra, but I think it's base 3.5 which ends up 5 with recommended fit out + battery. I notice the Arto model has a storage compartment under the floor to keep a secret cash wine stash though so... Surprised by my level of interest in it to be honest; probably trauma response from too many childhood holidays in a much less luxurious version! that's not normally how it works. On a coachwork build, (and indeed normally an A-Class) the vehicle weight that is talked about is the MGW - mass gross weight that the loaded vehicle must not exceed in its converted form (dictated by the base vehicle, taking into account any upgrades to e.g. suspension that may have been done). That ties into what people are licensed (or not licensed) to drive. Hence the focus on 3.5t as that is where driving license cut off is. If you are my age, then you have C1 class driving rights grandfathered in, allowing you to drive >3.5 < 7.5t. If you are younger, you won't by default. Hence the focus on 3.5t MGW, as below that means those without C1 can drive it. For a MoHo the unladen weight - or the inverse i.e. the spare weight available up to the MGW - is specified. It used to be (no idea whether still is) that allows for a standard specified amount of 'onboard' or laden weight: e.g. water tank full, 1x gas bottle , 2x people at some specified average weight, half grey water tank, other bits and pieces. The frequently little spare capacity that is left between that and the vehicle's MGW is often a surprise to people. Just as an example. Our 7m MoHo as originally built had an MGW of 3.5t (fitting the above model). Its unladen weight is of course less than that. And the original base vehicle on which it was based had a lower unladen (and I think possibly MGW) than that still. As it happens, ours had an after market suspension upgrade (prior to our ownership) to take it to 3.9t MGW. That probably is not far off doubling the available free load weight. The good news is that because we both have C1 on our driving license we can still drive it. I think if we didn't, we could probably downgrade its registration to 3.5t max - even if it is PHYSICALLY capable of going higher. And of course we can also load it up with more tins of beans than would otherwise be the case. And surprisingly the road tax is a bit less than it would be: at >3.5t it is classified as a 'Private HGV', with a lower road tax. On the flip side, if we were to take it to e.g. France (if we could ever get through Dover) we would have to pay extra to get a 'vignette'. Our 6m motorhome is limited to 3.5t MGW. We enjoy the same speed limits and lane usage as a car. One subtlety often overlooked by those keen to re-plate to a higher MGW is the reduced speed limits and (I believe) a restriction on using the third lane on the motorway (here and/or in Europe). Going above 3.5t means shaving 10mph off for certain roads. Plenty of unsuspecting van drivers have been pulled up by the law for this, so it's worth checking the rules that apply to your re-plated vehicle. I suspect you are restricted to 50/60 on single/dual carriageways, rather than the usual 60/70. You may also be barred from the motorway third lane, like an HGV, but don't quote me on that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 6:38:01 GMT
Nicola Sturgeon said "Judge me on my record on education"
and the size of my hidden camper van
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 10, 2023 6:51:05 GMT
Nicola Sturgeon said "Judge me on my record on education"
and the size of my hidden camper van motorhome
there, fixed it for you
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