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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 4, 2024 20:24:43 GMT
Its a long way from Iran to Israel ... It's about 500 miles at the nearest point, 650 to Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. Iran is believed to have used Fattah hypersonic missiles, capable of about Mach 13+. That isn't very far at all at that speed. Less than five minutes from launch. although of course it is a ballistic missile, not a cruise missile. Which means it goes up in a flaming great arc. So the straight line distance isn't the distance it actually travels. And I'm going to make a not too big a jump and guess that the supposed max. speed of Mach 13-15+ is not its average speed by a long shot, and quite possibly is its terminal descent speed. Maybe. All of which makes a big difference to those calculations you just did there.
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Post by michaelc on Oct 4, 2024 20:45:13 GMT
It's about 500 miles at the nearest point, 650 to Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. Iran is believed to have used Fattah hypersonic missiles, capable of about Mach 13+. That isn't very far at all at that speed. Less than five minutes from launch. although of course it is a ballistic missile, not a cruise missile. Which means it goes up in a flaming great arc. So the straight line distance isn't the distance it actually travels. And I'm going to make a not too big a jump and guess that the supposed max. speed of Mach 13-15+ is not its average speed by a long shot, and quite possibly is its terminal descent speed. Maybe. All of which makes a big difference to those calculations you just did there. So how long then ?
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Post by adrianc on Oct 4, 2024 20:50:57 GMT
It's about 500 miles at the nearest point, 650 to Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. Iran is believed to have used Fattah hypersonic missiles, capable of about Mach 13+. That isn't very far at all at that speed. Less than five minutes from launch. although of course it is a ballistic missile, not a cruise missile. Which means it goes up in a flaming great arc. So the straight line distance isn't the distance it actually travels. And I'm going to make a not too big a jump and guess that the supposed max. speed of Mach 13-15+ is not its average speed by a long shot, and quite possibly is its terminal descent speed. Maybe. All of which makes a big difference to those calculations you just did there. You're right, it does. Which is why I allowed a lot of leeway on top of the straight-line-maximum-speed elapsed time of about 2min 40 for 500 miles to 3min 35 for 650. As you say... it goes up accelerating, it comes down bloody fast. I leave it for others to calculate the available response time from the point at which it starts to come downwards and the destination becomes clear. But it's not going to be very long at all...
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Post by agent69 on Oct 5, 2024 16:44:26 GMT
I would have thought that there weren't any ladyboys there, but I defer to your greater knowledge of the subject. lol - I thought it was you that regularly travelled to Thailand and enjoyed the night life there. I've never been there. You need to broaden your horizons, and go somewhere with quality food and top notch live music
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Post by agent69 on Oct 18, 2024 7:03:25 GMT
Yahya Sinwar throws a STICK at drone before being killed.
Must be a batch of new armaments - high tech Iranian sticks
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Post by keitha on Oct 18, 2024 12:18:59 GMT
Yahya Sinwar throws a STICK at drone before being killed.
Must be a batch of new armaments - high tech Iranian sticks
perhaps they daren't use anything electronic in case it blows up
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Post by adrianc on Oct 18, 2024 12:24:52 GMT
Yahya Sinwar throws a STICK at drone before being killed.
Must be a batch of new armaments - high tech Iranian sticks
Faced with a drone and not much else to hand, it's probably a reasonable way to down it... Especially when you're covered in dust and your head ringing because the building's just been hit by a shell. It wouldn't do much with a drone that then goes bang, though. Or a drone that's feeding live video back to target the next shell... www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1IfTeiElo
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Post by benaj on Oct 18, 2024 12:38:43 GMT
It looks like troops are enjoying themselves play IRL Call Of Duty with ultra easy difficulty when the opponents doesn’t have much to return damage, at least not to have an active subscriptions and experience amazing battle effects
Not convinced if they can handle difficult opponents with better equipment
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Post by toffeeboy on Oct 21, 2024 13:25:14 GMT
Yahya Sinwar throws a STICK at drone before being killed.
Must be a batch of new armaments - high tech Iranian sticks
I was told a story by an army friend, not sure if it's true, but some guy was being hunted by a drone. He had a semi automatic rifle which is pointless against a drone that easily dodges the single bullets. Anyway fired all his bullets with no hits so just launched the empty rifle at the drone and knocked it out of the sky so depending on the size of the sticks being thrown you never know.
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Post by agent69 on Oct 21, 2024 14:07:33 GMT
Yahya Sinwar throws a STICK at drone before being killed.
Must be a batch of new armaments - high tech Iranian sticks
I was told a story by an army friend, not sure if it's true, but some guy was being hunted by a drone. He had a semi automatic rifle which is pointless against a drone that easily dodges the single bullets. Anyway fired all his bullets with no hits so just launched the empty rifle at the drone and knocked it out of the sky so depending on the size of the sticks being thrown you never know. I guess a mugs chance is better than no chance at all.
Also, BBC reporting that Hamas aren't going to reveal the name of their new leader. I wonder how many geniuses it took to work that one out
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Post by benaj on Oct 21, 2024 15:30:23 GMT
John from the Sunday Telegraph mentioned “Victory” is needed in order to bring peace.
But how many Palestinians, Lebanonese, other operatives and Unifil soldiers have to be killed before the “victory”?
Raising up the Star of David flags in occupied territory and killing almost all the top leaders doesn’t appear as “victory”with this Call Of Duty in the Middle East.
At least the world police back in 2003 made it clear it was about to topple Saddam Hussein and destroy “WMDs”.
This war game is a bit different with two sides of NPCs, Lebanonese armies and Unifil soldiers.
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Post by 09dolphin on Oct 21, 2024 19:04:42 GMT
I do wonder how different the Isreal response would have been if most / the majority of the hostages taken over a year ago had been released over the past 12 months. My belief is that it could have helped to defuse the situation.
If my mother / sister / brother had been taken I would want the destruction of whoever had taken them, especially after some of the hstigages were recently executed as they were likely to be rescued.
Perhaps the British should have missiles devestating their cities as it was our representatives who decided on how the middle east would be broken up in the late 1940s.
I also can't understand why other Arab nations can care so little for their close neighbours that they refuse to offer asylum to their brothers/sisters. This country offers assylum to those opressessed from anywhere in the world. the
I honestly do think that Isreai citizens taken hostage by the Palastinians elected representatives caused the present problem in the first place.
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Post by benaj on Oct 21, 2024 20:21:19 GMT
Many countries have gained independence and some territories have been handed over to other sovereigns by the British government successfully. Why Palestine is the only one ending up so badly and no peace after many decades?
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Post by adrianc on Oct 21, 2024 20:35:13 GMT
I do wonder how different the Isreal response would have been if most / the majority of the hostages taken over a year ago had been released over the past 12 months. My belief is that it could have helped to defuse the situation. Not by much. The Israelis were just looking for an excuse. Israeli airstrikes on Gaza seem to have been the end of a substantial proportion of the hostages.
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Post by benaj on Oct 24, 2024 8:05:57 GMT
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