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Post by jo on Jun 17, 2016 11:31:12 GMT
I buy cheap probability/kurtosis and sell expensive probability/kurtosis, as simple as that (then again I'm more comfortable renormalizing a SU(N) Yang-mills theory than thinking about unit labour costs ...) I never thought I'd read the word 'kurtosis' on this forum. Does this mean I can now deploy 'heteroskedasticity' at will?
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Post by bracknellboy on Jun 17, 2016 11:36:03 GMT
.. As for what happens to P2P on Brexit, well within 5 years it will cease to exist. The logic is obvious. UK votes for Brexit. UK has recession (made worse the global recession that is very likely statistically before 2020). Tory party tears itself apart. Knowing that opposition parties don't win elections, but incumbents can lose them, Corbyn amazes everyone and becomes PM in 2020 or even before. Corbyn nationalizes everything ... no need for P2P! That was easy. unencumbered by any EU restrictions/limitations on state aid etc.
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Post by beechside on Jun 17, 2016 12:14:32 GMT
samford71: Thank you for your detailed reply, which I very much value. OK, I do come from an academic background - fair enough... I don't think we will ever see the stupidity of ERM rate hikes again. I sincerely hope that lesson was learnt. I do see raising interest rates as an important tool in controlling inflation - one of the key things that the Gov asks BoE to do. Making sterling more attractive will reduce the cost of imports and, while it's a blunt tool, the market is still led by sentiment. The last model I built (as part of an EU funded project) was back in 2002 so I can't claim to be current. That was all about increasing the EU's ability to compete in an Internet-led world. Prior to that, it was systems for trading floors (mainly valuations). I stress that I was the constructor of the model, not the authors, who were a bunch of so called specialists, though I did actuarial studies myself and was a specialist in fixed interest. Can't claim to remember that much since I've had another career or two since then. . . Loved your final paragraph. It was a splendid pastiche of both sides of the argument. It really did make me LOL - not something that often happens on these forums. Thanks again. Your input is informed and useful.
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Post by oldnick on Jun 17, 2016 12:30:49 GMT
samford71 and beechside, thank you for steering the thread back on track - haven't a clue what you're discussing - but thank you anyway
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Post by adrianc on Jun 17, 2016 12:38:18 GMT
samford71 and beechside , thank you for steering the thread back on track - haven't a clue what you're discussing - but thank you anyway And there was me, thinking I was the only one that needed to involve Google Translate.
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Post by uncletone on Jun 17, 2016 14:54:21 GMT
I picked up on the word "actuarial". I remember being told that an actuary was somebody who could not face the excitement of accountancy....
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Post by pikestaff on Jun 17, 2016 16:21:53 GMT
...There will be no reduction in the demand for student flats and care homes... I'm not sure about that. If the brexiteers get in and clamp down hard in immigration, then: (1) The numbers of overseas students (both EU and non-EU) will be slashed (cutting off nose to spite face as it is well documented that overseas students are a big economic plus); and (2) Care homes will struggle even harder to find staff, especially outside the south-east. Many of them are barely profitable now, and Council funding for care is in crisis. I would expect a lot of care homes to go bust and it is very likely that people needing affordable care could be forced to move to the cheap corners of the country in order to get it - or to go abroad if anyone will let them in.
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 17, 2016 20:22:36 GMT
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Post by batchoy on Jun 17, 2016 21:31:48 GMT
...There will be no reduction in the demand for student flats and care homes... I'm not sure about that. If the brexiteers get in and clamp down hard in immigration, then: (1) The numbers of overseas students (both EU and non-EU) will be slashed (cutting off nose to spite face as it is well documented that overseas students are a big economic plus); and (2) Care homes will struggle even harder to find staff, especially outside the south-east. Many of them are barely profitable now, and Council funding for care is in crisis. I would expect a lot of care homes to go bust and it is very likely that people needing affordable care could be forced to move to the cheap corners of the country in order to get it - or to go abroad if anyone will let them in. I actually disagree with you on number 2) we have close contacts with the care home industry (one reason I don't invest in it), and the overseas nurse/care worker recruitment business. One of the big problems care homes have had is the clamp down on OSWs from outside the EU which has meant that care homes have had to recruit from within the EU. In turn this has meant that they have not been able to recruit the people they would like based on language skills, training and general attitude to the elderly and infirm. They have also been losing the people that they would like to keep because non-EU OSWs have being issued with visas that have a limited number of renewals to prevent them gaining rights to residency so many are coming to the point that they have to leave the country. Many of the people we are in touch with in the industry are banking on Brexit allowing them to recruit the OSWs they want not the ones they are forced to have.
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Post by jonah on Jun 18, 2016 8:15:57 GMT
batchoy is it likely though, in the case of brexit, that the rules for ANY immigration will be relaxed any time soon to the extent that numbers increase? Can't see that making popular headlines...
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Post by batchoy on Jun 18, 2016 8:30:50 GMT
batchoy is it likely though, in the case of brexit, that the rules for ANY immigration will be relaxed any time soon to the extent that numbers increase? Can't see that making popular headlines... The Brexit camp have been promising various forms or controlled immigration where the country allows in the people its wants/needs and are most suitable for the job rather from a global pool rather than restricting companies to OSW from EU counties, which in the case of the care home industry means women from poorer EU countries.
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Post by adrianc on Jun 18, 2016 8:31:55 GMT
They have also been losing the people that they would like to keep because non-EU OSWs have being issued with visas that have a limited number of renewals to prevent them gaining rights to residency so many are coming to the point that they have to leave the country. Many of the people we are in touch with in the industry are banking on Brexit allowing them to recruit the OSWs they want not the ones they are forced to have. But Brexit wouldn't change the fact that it's the UK government who decide how to issue visas for non-EU nationals...
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Post by oldnick on Jun 18, 2016 9:45:36 GMT
Mod hat off- Brexit is not a political party - the campaign can speculate on the future but cannot offer policies, as it will not receive a mandate from the electorate in the event of a vote to leave.
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Post by jonah on Jun 18, 2016 11:33:41 GMT
Mod hat off- Brexit is not a political party - the campaign can speculate on the future but cannot offer policies, as it will not receive a mandate from the electorate in the event of a vote to leave. But yet it has suggested actions such as reduction in fuel taxes or increased nhs funding....
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Post by lynnanthony on Jun 18, 2016 11:52:40 GMT
They have also been losing the people that they would like to keep because non-EU OSWs have being issued with visas that have a limited number of renewals to prevent them gaining rights to residency so many are coming to the point that they have to leave the country. Many of the people we are in touch with in the industry are banking on Brexit allowing them to recruit the OSWs they want not the ones they are forced to have. But Brexit wouldn't change the fact that it's the UK government who decide how to issue visas for non-EU nationals... However, it is possible a UK government may make different decisions about how to issue visas for non-EU nationals following Brexit than they would if we remain .....
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