oldgrumpy
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Post by oldgrumpy on Mar 10, 2017 17:59:00 GMT
Mmmm. Dear <<First Name>>
Well, I suppose I did say stop trying to be "matey".
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twoheads
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Post by twoheads on Mar 10, 2017 18:22:57 GMT
My funds (deposited yesterday 15:50) have just been credited within the last 15 minutes.
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nick
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Post by nick on Mar 10, 2017 18:31:56 GMT
I think the reaction here has been way disproportionate given the timeline involved. So they have had an issue over the last 24/48 hrs in crediting all deposits - something they probably only were alerted too earlier today (after hours last night doesn't count). Within the course of today they have seemed to have identified the root cause (and appear to imply the cause was the data feed from the bank end) and have communicated that there is issue that they are resolving. Yes, they could have communicated that they are aware of an issue earlier, but we talking hours not days. The timing is unfortunate given the large loan launches which has caused frustration from missed opportunities, but I'm not sure that the level of criticism is warranted. If people still haven't been credited this time next week then that would be a different matter......
This episode highlights one of the drawbacks of an automated process, when things go wrong they tend to go wrong in a big way and take longer to fix versus a manual process - not that i'm advocating a manual process!
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Post by gb007 on Mar 10, 2017 18:33:37 GMT
If this was the lse, where a significant number of market participants were at a disadvantage, trading would be suspended. They might even cancel transactions back to a point in time. Just sayin' I don't think the p2p industry is mature enough to go that far. If this was the lse, the settlement date would usually be 2 business days after the transaction date (T+2) perhaps we could suggest it!
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Post by d_saver on Mar 10, 2017 18:40:34 GMT
Just got my funds, but most of what I wanted gone. So, now I hit the withdraw button. Wonder if I'll ever see this cash again. SS - You really ballsed this up. Instead of outsourcing your work, HIRE SOMEONE!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 18:46:37 GMT
Mmmm. Dear <<First Name>>
Well, I suppose I did say stop trying to be "matey".
oldgrumpy - my vote for the post of the week - you are still my favourite!! (smiley face - i only I knew how do insert an emojee or whatever they are called)
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Post by dualinvestor on Mar 10, 2017 19:13:26 GMT
I think the reaction here has been way disproportionate given the timeline involved. So they have had an issue over the last 24/48 hrs in crediting all deposits - something they probably only were alerted too earlier today ( after hours last night doesn't count). Within the course of today they have seemed to have identified the root cause (and appear to imply the cause was the data feed from the bank end) and have communicated that there is issue that they are resolving. Yes, they could have communicated that they are aware of an issue earlier, but we talking hours not days. The timing is unfortunate given the large loan launches which has caused frustration from missed opportunities, but I'm not sure that the level of criticism is warranted. If people still haven't been credited this time next week then that would be a different matter...... This episode highlights one of the drawbacks of an automated process, when things go wrong they tend to go wrong in a big way and take longer to fix versus a manual process - not that i'm advocating a manual process! This is a company known to work way into a Saturday night, around midnight, and post on here when it suits them, so I must disagree with you on that point.
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sqh
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Post by sqh on Mar 10, 2017 19:18:34 GMT
I think the reaction here has been way disproportionate given the timeline involved. So they have had an issue over the last 24/48 hrs in crediting all deposits - something they probably only were alerted too earlier today (after hours last night doesn't count). Within the course of today they have seemed to have identified the root cause (and appear to imply the cause was the data feed from the bank end) and have communicated that there is issue that they are resolving. Yes, they could have communicated that they are aware of an issue earlier, but we talking hours not days. The timing is unfortunate given the large loan launches which has caused frustration from missed opportunities, but I'm not sure that the level of criticism is warranted. If people still haven't been credited this time next week then that would be a different matter...... This episode highlights one of the drawbacks of an automated process, when things go wrong they tend to go wrong in a big way and take longer to fix versus a manual process - not that i'm advocating a manual process! I disagree with your analysis. 1. SS moved the goalposts this week and weren't ready for the consequences. 2. The order in which deposits were handled was very wrong. If the system jammed up, why were later deposits given preference ? I found the whole deposit debacle really annoying. If you weren't effected then you wouldn't appreciate the frustration. EDIT: There will be a knock-on consequence. In future lenders will make multiple small deposits rather than one large deposit. That means the deposit handling system will be under more strain. It is very easy for lenders to deposit say 5 times £100 rather than 1x £500.
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Post by jonah on Mar 10, 2017 19:18:36 GMT
Mmmm. Dear <<First Name>>
Well, I suppose I did say stop trying to be "matey".
oldgrumpy - my vote for the post of the week - you are still my favourite!! (smiley face - i only I knew how do insert an emojee or whatever they are called) Click on the smiling face almost at the far right on the row of icons and click the one you want.
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Post by jonah on Mar 10, 2017 19:19:38 GMT
For what it is worth, my deposit at just after midnight was processed at 10am.
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Post by d_saver on Mar 10, 2017 19:33:47 GMT
I think the reaction here has been way disproportionate given the timeline involved. So they have had an issue over the last 24/48 hrs in crediting all deposits - something they probably only were alerted too earlier today (after hours last night doesn't count). Within the course of today they have seemed to have identified the root cause (and appear to imply the cause was the data feed from the bank end) and have communicated that there is issue that they are resolving. Yes, they could have communicated that they are aware of an issue earlier, but we talking hours not days. The timing is unfortunate given the large loan launches which has caused frustration from missed opportunities, but I'm not sure that the level of criticism is warranted. If people still haven't been credited this time next week then that would be a different matter...... This episode highlights one of the drawbacks of an automated process, when things go wrong they tend to go wrong in a big way and take longer to fix versus a manual process - not that i'm advocating a manual process! I disagree with your analysis. 1. SS moved the goalposts this week and weren't ready for the consequences. 2. The order in which deposits were handled was very wrong. If the system jammed up, why were later deposits given preference ? I found the whole deposit debacle really annoying. If you weren't effected then you wouldn't appreciate the frustration. Totally agree. I draw a close to it now, but for me as well, if the issue was a genuine problem that was clearly trying to be resolved, then I'd have no problem (as long as it did not occur often). The main thing for me is during contacting them, following up etc., I've formed an opinion of how clueless they appear to be. As a business owner, I'd be mortified of a situation like this affecting my clients. Although I did not loan money, I did process high numbers of £ transactions in a similar manner, automatically. I understand a bit about the back office flow and the software side and I'm astounded that this could go on for so long and not even be noticed. It's not a few bob, it's potentially 100's of thousands just last 24 hours, missing. Just look at how much has just gone off the SM this evening. How can that imbalance go unnoticed!? After looking into it a bit more, I have some theories why and how they end up in this mess, and it's enough for me to think I'm fairly done with SS for now, unless the opportunity really justifies it. If you are taking millions of people's money, you have to be professional about it.
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Post by bernard on Mar 10, 2017 19:51:00 GMT
I have had this issue with SS before, and they waffled. So this is NOT a one off, rather a long standing issue that they have failed to address and is now highlighted by a higher volume situation. So as they have had plenty of time to put their house in order, but DIDN'T, what trust in their management?
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Mar 10, 2017 20:26:06 GMT
/mod hat off
The SS deposit 'system' (using the word loosely) is/was well known to have issues when one lender makes multiple identical deposits on the same day .. however this is the first time I think they have managed to lose a whole chunk of transaction data out of the middle of a day's activity. Whoever they are using** needs a swift kick in the wallet, and then they need to explore some system which actually works (I know of no other platform which is even half this bad at deposits, although I know at least one ... LC .. which is even worse at withdrawals). I refuse to believe that the most profitable platform in the known universe can't afford the fees for debit card transaction processing, for instance.
** unclear as to whether it is their bank, or some middle man who is badly challenged in the gorm department.
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Post by sildenafil on Mar 10, 2017 20:42:53 GMT
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Post by fasty on Mar 10, 2017 20:52:50 GMT
Surveillance reports suggest that they are burning the midnight oil in SS Towers tonight
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